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Lets be honest: Our run schemes have been primitive

Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:52 pm
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22805 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:52 pm
Watching the run plays that Miami displayed last night would work perfect with JD5's talents. We have not shown any outside running concepts outside of jet sweeps to Malik right now. We are not using any pulling/zone concepts as well.

I'd like to see some more creativity in our run game both inside the tackles and outside moving forward. All we seem to do is pound the rock with an inside run.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 3:53 pm
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
3409 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:54 pm to
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We are not using any pulling

That's the hope when Emery moves to guard
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:54 pm to
Didn’t Jackson destroy a defender on an outside run?
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22805 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:54 pm to
Yeah he cut it outside. It was not designed that way. Credit Jackson for skating and seeing it.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 3:57 pm
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
3219 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:58 pm to
We can’t block it right now, line is struggling especially interior. I’ll give them props, the pass protection improved. We gotta find some way to create lanes and get push up front.
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:58 pm to
What changes would you do then? How is it primitive? How is running inside zone with a read component primitive? It’s a spread offense. Sure we need to run more counter and power, but idk if we have the capacity do that with how much our line has been under performing outside of miss state. We have the split zone component with an rpo to it so it causes stress on linebackers. Our run game is fine.
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
5643 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:59 pm to
The ground game with the rbs is all centered around giving 5 the option to keep.

Praying that we set out with the intent to let these thumpers do their thing behind this line at some point. I just like watching power football, feel like we have the guys to do it with Diggs and Jackson.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 4:04 pm
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22805 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:00 pm to
Well for starters I would incorporate a toss in the WR bunch. I'd also put JD5 under center and have a qb sneak in place for short yardage as well potential new looks to break tendencies.

We were basic in our approach against FSU in regards to our run schemes and the only thing that has really changed is better execution. There is so much that JD5 does that is great in running the ball but if he wants to be developed into a real pro QB he is going to have get comfortable with taking snaps under center.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 4:03 pm
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21181 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:07 pm to
Honestly, they need to stop playing around and design running around Diggs and Jackson. I do not care if they pull guards or not, each one of those dudes need to touch the ball at least 10 times a game. Jackson seems like he would just be a beast once he gets some reps.
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:08 pm to
Putting him under center doesn’t give him much more options to run the football. I agree we need more option stuff in our system. More counter and power reads out of an empty set. Motioning receivers running power and counter reads on that, but our oline is not at that point yet. They aren’t executing at a high enough level to be able to be successful
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
1922 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:17 pm to
I would love to see a reverse with Jayden running wide right and have Anderson or Nabors come back with the reverse. The defense would be keying on JD so much it would open the left side of the field.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67459 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:21 pm to
it’s encouraging that we have some guys actually hitting cutback lanes on inside zone plays. I feel like we haven’t had good zone running RB while only running inside zone
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2451 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 5:53 pm to
It would be stopped behind the line.
Posted by Mobiletiggah
Mobile Alabama
Member since Mar 2021
2759 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 7:43 pm to
Most of our running plays utilize zone blocking. The crease shows and the running back usually cuts back through it. It’s a bunch of pushing. It can be dominating because the offense player knows which direction. If the Defense wins the shoving the back still has a couple of options. Anyway, I don’t know if it’s better or worse. That’s what it has been creases between the tackles.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
4417 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:18 pm to
He bounced our one running play outside. If that is going to be our only running play, then our RB's have to be very aware and ready to jump cut or spin into open space. Running into our Olinemen backsides is getting hard to watch, especially inside the 5 yd line.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23736 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

I'd like to see some more creativity in our run game both inside the tackles and outside moving forward. All we seem to do is pound the rock with an inside run.


Even though they have a year in the system, the OL is still starting 2 true sophomores, a junior who missed most of a season due to injury, and another who played a year in a shitty program and hasn’t been great in Frazier. And when he goes out, we have a true freshman who isn’t 100% ready out there.

I think this is the main reason for the lack of variety in the run game. I’m hoping they do use outside and off tackle runs with the backs more as the season goes on and the line gells, because Diggs and Jackson can be really dangerous if they get the edge.
Posted by jgriffith
Paradise Valley, Arizona
Member since Sep 2005
5522 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 11:15 pm to
OP is thinking back to the specific run plays we witnessed in 2019 under JOE BRADY’s great tutelage. Kelly and Denbrock do not possess that same imagination, creativity.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 11:16 pm
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9177 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 8:47 am to
quote:

That's the hope when Emery moves to guard


His athletic ability at guard will lead to a lot better options for the offense as a whole. Can do a lot of different things from a blocking standpoint.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40134 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:52 am to
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run plays we witnessed in 2019 under JOE BRADY’s great tutelage.

You mean when we’d hand it to Clyde and he would fake out the DB in our backfield?

Seriously, that was an elite, veteran offensive line. Those guys are pushing NFL defenses around now.
This post was edited on 9/19/23 at 10:54 am
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4425 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:59 am to
quote:

We are not using any pulling/zone concepts as well.


Lol wut? We literally run zone 95% of the time.
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