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re: Les Miles never ceases to amaze me
Posted on 4/9/17 at 6:33 am to Mayhawman
Posted on 4/9/17 at 6:33 am to Mayhawman
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Evidently that inflation was no worse than about 110-120 other FBS programs according to those professionals who adjust SOS for weak OOC and conf foes
Never said we did not have a decent SOS. Stating that since 2013 CLM could not beat the teams that made it a decent SOS, he won the easy games. Again, not hard to grasp what I am saying.
This post was edited on 4/9/17 at 6:35 am
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 8:07 pm to ell_13
Has less to do with him promoting himself but saying he was better at the end of LSU vs the beginning is laughable. Had the first half of his career been like his second, his career at LSU would have been cut in half.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:14 am to RedTigerRulz
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o one's opinion is shite dumbass.
It most certainly is boy.
Or are you saying the poster that gave an opinion that was advocating for playing Trindon Holiday at DE,wasnt shite?
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They're entitled to it no matter how outrageous it is or how much it pisses you off.
Kind of like I'm entitled to say that opinion is shite?
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I still cant understand why you and others jump on people with your goofy facts anytime they express their opinions on Les. It wont change their minds.
Do you have this same stance with people that start threads about Miles just to shite on him?
Because no "pro miles "poster ever brings him up or starts threads about him.
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You havent changed my mind about Les one iota
K.
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He was a dumbass sideline coach who left a lot on the table in his last few years here at LSU and he was too damn stubborn to realize he was actually hurting the program.
shite sideline coaches dont have the sustained success miles had while coaching in the most talent rich division in cfb.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 12:43 am
Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:24 am to RBWilliams8
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Had the first half of his career been like his second, his career at LSU would have been cut in half.
I doubt that since the win loss #s of Miles last 5 years are better than Saban's tenure at lsu.
2011-2015 wouldnt seem so bad if it weren't for 2003-2011.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:55 am to EyeOfTheTiger14
Definitely Les Rhetoroc
Posted on 4/10/17 at 3:49 am to Rickdaddy4188
Quoting you here. " The win loss #s of Miles last 5 years are better than Sabans tenure at LSU." This is not true.
Saban
48-16, 75% win pct
sec 28-12, 70% win pct
Miles last 5 seasons
39-16, 70.9% win pct
Sec 21-13, 61.7% win pct
Saban
48-16, 75% win pct
sec 28-12, 70% win pct
Miles last 5 seasons
39-16, 70.9% win pct
Sec 21-13, 61.7% win pct
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 7:01 am
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:41 am to Madking
Saban's tenure- 16 losses 12 conf losses
Miles last 5 full years- 15 losses 12 conf losses
Saban's tenure= 2 10 win seasons and 2 top 15 finishes
Miles last 5 full years= 4 10 win seasons ( yes im counting mcneese)and 3 top 15 finishes
Of course you want to use 2016 and take out 2011 because it's the only way to justify your agenda.
Regardless my point still stands.
2011-2015 isnt so bad if 2005-2011 doesnt happen.
Miles last 5 full years- 15 losses 12 conf losses
Saban's tenure= 2 10 win seasons and 2 top 15 finishes
Miles last 5 full years= 4 10 win seasons ( yes im counting mcneese)and 3 top 15 finishes
Of course you want to use 2016 and take out 2011 because it's the only way to justify your agenda.
Regardless my point still stands.
2011-2015 isnt so bad if 2005-2011 doesnt happen.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 7:54 am
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:09 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Kind of like I'm entitled to say that opinion is shite?
I guess the only opinion about Les that matters is yours right?
For a guy who wanted Les gone, you sure as hell rail for him more than any other poster. You say you want to win and support the Tigers....and in the next breath dump on Coach O.....before the man has really even had a chance to make his mark. That is the epitome of hypocrisy.
You have spent the last few years blasting anyone who dumped on Miles and yet you do the same thing....all because you dont like the hire that was made or because you're pissed that Les was unceremoniously shown the door without the proper respect.
You specifically stated you wanted Les gone after A&M 2015. Almost all of your posts, where Les is concerned, suggests otherwise.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 8:19 am
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:32 am to RedTigerRulz
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I guess the only opinion about Les that matters is yours right?
To me yes.
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For a guy who wanted Les gone, you sure as hell rail for him more than any other poster.
Stating facts about his tenure isnt railing for him. Those things happened.
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You say you want to win and support the Tigers....and in the next breath dump on Coach O.....b
Stating facts about O's lack of success at anything other than RC and dline isnt dumping on him. It's reality.
I also find it funny that you have a problem with me calling into question a lsu coach when you repeatedly called into question the most successful coach in lsu history. That would be like me saying stop posting facts about another lsu coach.
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You have spent the last few years blasting anyone who dumped on Miles and yet you do the same thing...
Its not blasting when it's facts.
You spent the last few years shitting on miles yet shitting on O rubs you the wrong way. The difference is Miles has actually accomplished something of note at lsu.
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You specifically stated you wanted Les gone after A&M 2015. Almost all of your posts, where Les is concerned, suggests otherwise.
Its amazing watching people turn facts into defending and shitting on a coach.
When I post Miles' accomplishments at lsu its in no way defending Miles. Its reality.
Saying miles has the 7th best win % in sec history IS NOT defending Miles.
Saying miles has the best win % (with 75 games coached)in lsu history IS NOT defending him. Those things are reality.
Saying Miles lost more his last 5 years than his 1st 5 years IS NOT shitting on miles.
Saying Miles lost to less talented teams IS NOT shitting on Miles.
Those things happened.
Am I supposed to act like Miles didnt have the most successful tenure in lsu history just because I wanted a new coach?
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you're pissed that Les was unceremoniously shown the door without the proper respect.
I dont care how he was fired.
Its just funny watching you blast coaches that have actually accomplished something at lsu but get upset at pointing out the lack of success Ed Orgeron has had in his coaching career.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:36 am to Rickdaddy4188
Lmfao tell the truth and stop spinning everything. I want to use facts and you want to use 2011 to fit your agenda. You're unbelievable you will lie and lie to defend Miles. You will accuse others of doing exactly what in fact you are trying to do. You will ignore facts and claim agenda while you yourself are ignoring facts you don't like to push your agenda. Unreal simply unreal. To always claim that facts guide your stance when in fact that's the farthest thing from the truth is worse than lying.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 8:46 am
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:46 am to Rickdaddy4188
No, Im simply saying Orgeron has not lost BIG at LSU yet. Why would anyone be dumping on him at this point??? It doesn't make sense and is comical.
You said Les rubbed me the wrong way. Same thing here with you. You're letting his previous record rub you the wrong way. Is it not possible at all that he's learned from his mistakes (something Les never did) and has become a better coach?
I've stated before, CEO wasn't my first choice either....but he's NOT Les Miles so I'm good with that. Any change is better than no change where Les's situation was concerned. And O seems to be making the right decisions at this point.
When the season starts, if he starts losing to inferior teams routinely, mismanaging the clock, or any other goofy crap, I'll break out my pitchfork and torch and be ready to blast him. Personally, I don't think that's going to happen.
And what if he beats Bama this year? Something Les couldn't do in recent years (and was lucky to do at all in in 2011...save for the Bama kicker who couldn't hit his arse with both hands and a great and albeit lucky INT).
If we don't win big in the next few years, it wont be because O didn't do everything he could to set us up for success. Miles was stuck in gear and treading water at the end, more concerned about preserving friendships than winning ball games.
You said Les rubbed me the wrong way. Same thing here with you. You're letting his previous record rub you the wrong way. Is it not possible at all that he's learned from his mistakes (something Les never did) and has become a better coach?
I've stated before, CEO wasn't my first choice either....but he's NOT Les Miles so I'm good with that. Any change is better than no change where Les's situation was concerned. And O seems to be making the right decisions at this point.
When the season starts, if he starts losing to inferior teams routinely, mismanaging the clock, or any other goofy crap, I'll break out my pitchfork and torch and be ready to blast him. Personally, I don't think that's going to happen.
And what if he beats Bama this year? Something Les couldn't do in recent years (and was lucky to do at all in in 2011...save for the Bama kicker who couldn't hit his arse with both hands and a great and albeit lucky INT).
If we don't win big in the next few years, it wont be because O didn't do everything he could to set us up for success. Miles was stuck in gear and treading water at the end, more concerned about preserving friendships than winning ball games.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:47 am to Madking
I shouldn't have said you have an agenda. But don't act like you dont.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:50 am to Rickdaddy4188
You said the last 5 years. How is posting his record from the past 5 years and agenda? I didn't post a comment about it just the facts. You can't erase last season in fact last season should be highlighted because it was pivotal in his career. C'mon dude if I'd've twisted the knife I could see you saying "agenda" but I didn't do that I simply posted the records.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:51 am to RedTigerRulz
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No, Im simply saying Orgeron has not lost BIG at LSU yet. Why would anyone be dumping on him at this point???
He lost to a 14 point underdog at home while they were missing tons of defensive starters. They same type of loss you'd blast miles for.
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I've stated before, CEO wasn't my first choice either....but he's NOT Les Miles so I'm good with that.
Ive had as much success running a program as Ed Orgeron.
Would you be ok with hiring me?
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Something Les couldn't do in recent years (and was lucky to do at all in in 2011...save for the Bama kicker who couldn't hit his arse with both hands and a great and albeit lucky INT).
Missing kicks is what happens when you try 4 kicks and 3 of those kicks would be career long makes for your kicker.
Ed orgeron has never run a successful offense, defense , or program. Those are facts. Firing miles was fine. Hiring the most unqualified hire in big 6 history wasnt. Like I said, if any other sec program had hired ed orgeron you'd be shitting all over them.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:54 am to Madking
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You said the last 5 years. How is posting his record from the past 5 years and agenda
Youre right.
How's this....
I doubt it because the last 5 full seasons under miles have a better win loss record than Saban's tenure at lsu.
Also your agenda is evident. You said Miles didnt take over a shite Oklahoma State program and actually used their sanctions for a reason to say it wasnt a shite program.
You then turned what I said into saying miles was the best coach in Oklahoma state history.
The difference is you've never given miles credit for anything and I've repeatedly blasted him on legit gripes.
Anyway I love you both . madking and red.
I'm getting busy at work. I'm done for a while.
frick miles and I'll stop posting facts about orgeron until he gives me a reason.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 8:56 am
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:00 am to Rickdaddy4188
I said that because over the past 35 years okie state has had a handful of down year which were mostly during probation. The coach who was there before the sanctions had more success than Miles and the coach after Miles has had more success also. That's the truth it's not agenda. Now yes he brought them back to the level but he didn't build a program from scratch. Okie state has tons of resources and financial support they have for a long time. Talk at cha later bro you know you're still my boy.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 9:02 am
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:22 am to Rickdaddy4188
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He lost to a 14 point underdog at home while they were missing tons of defensive starters. They same type of loss you'd blast miles for.
I blasted O for this disaster. Fact is, we wouldnt be having this discussion if Guice had run the right play.
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Would you be ok with hiring me?
Sure, if you hired Canada and had things moving in the right direction.
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Missing kicks is what happens when you try 4 kicks and 3 of those kicks would be career long makes for your kicker.
Matters not....we were lucky to win that game. I was there in person...we basically got outplayed.
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Hiring the most unqualified hire in big 6 history wasnt
Blame JA, not CEO. Not his fault our admin are incompetent buffoons. At least you dont have to worry about O holding us over a barrel to get a raise, all the while hinting at running of to Michigan.
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if any other sec program had hired ed orgeron you'd be shitting all over them.
I might scratch my head but would still hold off passing judgement until the results were in.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:01 am to Rickdaddy4188
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I shouldn't have said you have an agenda. But don't act like you dont.
The proverbial pot and kettle?
Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:56 pm to Mayhawman
That's what happens when you don't change your game plan..something Miles was criticized for heavily by nearly EVERY football expert.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:10 pm to RedTigerRulz
Why isnt Ricky banned yet?
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