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re: Les Miles is suing LSU

Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12324 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:32 pm to
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His record” is completely immaterial to whether LSU made the right decision in vacating those wins.


Well, that's the topic of this thread. His record should stand.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

His record should stand.


agree, let him have it, they gave Bush his Heisman back, and Ray Lewis is in the NFLHoF and is considered a hero
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
905 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:40 pm to
He is deluding himself if he thinks the CFHOF is going to even risk the backlash it would receive by putting him in the hall. It's a very sad addition to a very tragic figure.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:44 pm to
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He is deluding himself if he thinks the CFHOF is going to even risk the backlash it would receive by putting him in the hall. It's a very sad addition to a very tragic figure.


if Barry Switzer is in there they're not concerned with integrity
Posted by Wabbit7
Member since Aug 2018
2265 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

It was a waste of time, hurt the program in the long run, hurt our school’s brand, and generally sucked. Anyone who remembers that moron fondly is just as stupid as he was


Legit one of the stupidest posts on the rant in some time
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21086 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:51 pm to
No matter how this turns out, he really doesn’t deserve Hall of Fame. So much talent wasted under that dumbfrick.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21449 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:52 pm to
"The game against Wisconsin...."....this was his first game after committing to the A.D. that he would change his game planning. First play, Fournette is lined up, dotting the I". All 4 quarters, same game plan. Can still that that sideline shot, 4th quarter, where he's standing biden-like, frozen, dumbfounded.
Posted by SaveFarris
Member since Apr 2012
2486 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:53 pm to
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if Barry Switzer is in there they're not concerned with integrity


Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:55 pm to
don't stop there, OJ is still in there too it's all pretty much a joke anymore
Posted by tigerbait3488
River Ridge
Member since Dec 2007
11320 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:56 pm to
frick Les Miles. Always been a clown
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12585 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Well, that's the topic of this thread.

OK, sure, but you said “it wasn’t right to pull wins from his record” as if it was targeted at him personally.
quote:

His record should stand.

But.. why? Are you arguing that LSU shouldn’t have vacated any wins, or are you arguing that he should be evaluated for the HOF based on his record including the wins that were vacated?
Posted by TygerLyfe
Member since May 2023
2687 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:19 pm to
Mark Richt has lost control of Les Miles
Posted by darthbama
Member since Nov 2012
15 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:48 pm to
Just in case anyone has forgotten!

LINK
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28846 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

When I hear the name "Less Miles" I don't think HOF coach...

Good Coach... yea sure..
He was #2 in All time career wins at LSU before they vacated wins. He has the highest win percentage of any LSU coach that coached at least 30 games.

National champion
X2 national championship appearances
National COY
X2 SEC champion
SEC COY
5 11+ win seasons
7 10+ win seasons
7-4 bowl record at LSU

You can subjectively say Saban is the best football coach in LSU history if you want, but objectively, Les Miles is LSU's best football coach. When you're the best coach all time, of a historical top 10-12 program, you should 100% be in the CFB HOF.

Look, im pissed at the man too, but his accomplishments are his accomplishments. This wouldn't even be a damn debate had Oklahoma St never lost in 2011. LSU should have another championship. Luck was not on our side.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19707 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:10 pm to
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but he was unquestionably one of the best college coaches for a good 5 to 7 year stretch. There were maybe 2-3 other coaches you'd have taken over him at he time, and he had wins over all of them.
no, Les recruited elite players so that we had an athletic superiority over most team we played. So we won a lot of games, but it was due to raw talent, and in spite of Miles.

Hell, Gene Chizik and Larry Coker won NCs. Bad coaches can win a lot of games.

Les was lucky to be in a state with a ton of talent, and no real in-state competition. He kept most La kids, grabbed a few others from out-of-state, and we won on talent alone.

He was a poor game planner and a poor in-game coach. Yet he had enough talent to mask his weaknesses as a coach, and we won a lot of games.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
36629 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:22 pm to
And the biggest mistake in Les' tenure at LSU was his not being fired for cause...about the only thing I ever agreed with Joe Alleva about.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5904 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:23 pm to
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Did you read anything in the article or did you immediately start being a smartass and put your foot in your mouth immediately?



Are you having a bad day? You seem angry.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

not being fired for cause..


que?
Posted by Carter
Member since Nov 2003
3433 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:25 pm to
frick him and the horse he rode in on.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14001 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

LSU did not vacate wins because of Les Miles. LSU vacated wins because of the OLOL Foundation scandal and Will Wade.


So, the NCAA couldn't prove any allegations vs Wade, so they fired him to protect the football program which they could prove was dirty under Miles?
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