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re: Les Miles expects old school approach will benefit Jayhawks
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:08 pm to RB10
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:08 pm to RB10
quote:only if the offense has a physically dominant offensive line. If not, it's like running into a brick wall.
A power running scheme may be pretty successful in that baby shite soft conference.
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:09 pm to atltiger6487
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only if the offense has a physically dominant offensive line. If not, it's like running into a brick wall.
More like a soft mattress in the Big 12.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:10 pm to Shane4689
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"The days of lolly gagging with sissy passing and innovative offenses are over. We gonna pound the rock and be physical. This is not your uncles offense anymore"
this is going to be a beautiful disaster to watch.
kansas should be running the triple option if they want to be "different".
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:11 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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That along with the Les buzz should help recruiting in that state tremendously.
If Les is relying on talent in the state of Kansas, he's not going to get very far. Snyder had a good amount of players from Kansas but most of their starters last year were OOS recruits. Their top 9 tacklers on defense were from OOS, their QB from Missouri, 4 of their top 6 receivers. Honestly, the only real producer from Kansas on their team was their running back. And when I say OOS, I'm talking primarily Texas, Oklahoma, and Missouri.
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I think Les will get them to the middle of the pack in that conference, make some bowl games and be considered a success.
I hope I'm wrong, I just don't think Les has it in him anymore like he did years ago. I think it will be a minor miracle if he gets them in the middle of the pack. It's just a really tough job to win, maybe the toughest in America, and Les is in the twilight of his career.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:12 pm to Lonnie4LSU
Les should take a look at Ferentz for a model Midwest program. Old fashioned, boring, and disciplined football that relies on a strong o-line, competent QB, and reliable RBs. If Iowa can do it, then KU can too.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:15 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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He’s undergoing diversion which if he completes successfully will remove the charge from his record. Who knows, but it seems like he’s going to play eventually.
It's a 12 month program so I don't know if he has to complete it before he's re-instated.
Regardless, Pooka weighs 170 soaking wet. He's a pure spread RB that needs to operate in space. Putting him in an I would negate his skill set.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:18 pm to atltiger6487
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only if the offense has a physically dominant offensive line. If not, it's like running into a brick wall.
Pooka is one hell of a running back. He had no support at all last season and:
at Central Michigan: Made his collegiate debut with a start at running back … Ran for 125 yards and two touchdowns on 14 carries
Rutgers: Became the first freshman in KU history to open their career with back-to-back 100-yard rushing games after collecting 158 yards and one TD on 18 carries
at Baylor: Ran for 89 yards, including a career-long rush of 72 yards
Oklahoma State: Rushed for 97 yards and a score on 17 carries ... His touchdown run of 60 yards marked his longest scoring rush of his career … Recorded a career-high six reception for a career-best 60 yards
at West Virginia: Carried the ball 12 times for 65 yards … Caught three passes for 16 yards
at Texas Tech: Started at running back … Rushed for 81 yards and caught three balls for 26 yards
TCU: Scored two touchdowns off 102 yards receiving with seven receptions
at Oklahoma: Williams Jr. rushed for 252 yards which is a freshman record along with sixth all-time in Kansas football history ... Scored two touchdowns along with 18 yards receiving with three receptions ...
Texas: Rushed for 113 yards on 10 attempts to complete a record setting freshman season.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:18 pm to bountyhunter
quote:sure, running the ball is fine. Just do it unpredictably. Don't telegraph it. And to make that happen, defenses have to know you can throw the ball.
There's still a place for traditional, run-the-football offenses in college.
Run it out of pass formations. Run it on first down. Run it when the defense isn't expecting it.
Just don't let the defense know it's coming, because that won't work against defenses that match up physically with your O-line (which I suspect will be every team Kansas plays).
Just lining up and pounding it doesn't work against equal talent. We saw this firsthand while Miles was here.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:18 pm to Shane4689
Oh yeah ACE formation!
Say what you want but it is a great formation for play action. As long as you have a run game. You know what miles will instill.
Say what you want but it is a great formation for play action. As long as you have a run game. You know what miles will instill.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:24 pm to nola000
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That's why LSU would pound the shite out of lesser teams and then get stonewalled against teams with strong defensive talent, especially along the defensive line and linebackers
The defenses in the BIG 12 are garbage though so it would not surprise me to see them have success. The offenses are far and away better than the defenses in the BIG 12 especially at the defensive line.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:24 pm to nola000
quote:yeah. 5 wide has been so successful at KU I can’t imagine you would change that style
swear, that's one hard-headed son of a bitch. Good thing he's really likeable and personable.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:28 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:ok, Pooka's good. But I can use stats too.
Pooka is one hell of a running back. He had no support at all last season and:
at Central Michigan: Made his collegiate debut with a start at running back … Ran for 125 yards and two touchdowns on 14 carries
Rutgers: Became the first freshman in KU history to open their career with back-to-back 100-yard rushing games after collecting 158 yards and one TD on 18 carries
at Baylor: Ran for 89 yards, including a career-long rush of 72 yards
Oklahoma State: Rushed for 97 yards and a score on 17 carries ... His touchdown run of 60 yards marked his longest scoring rush of his career … Recorded a career-high six reception for a career-best 60 yards
at West Virginia: Carried the ball 12 times for 65 yards … Caught three passes for 16 yards
at Texas Tech: Started at running back … Rushed for 81 yards and caught three balls for 26 yards
TCU: Scored two touchdowns off 102 yards receiving with seven receptions
at Oklahoma: Williams Jr. rushed for 252 yards which is a freshman record along with sixth all-time in Kansas football history ... Scored two touchdowns along with 18 yards receiving with three receptions ...
Texas: Rushed for 113 yards on 10 attempts to complete a record setting freshman season.
How about this: Kansas was 105 last year in scoring and 109 in total yards per game.
But Pooka's good.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:30 pm to atltiger6487
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How about this: Kansas was 105 last year in scoring and 109 in total yards per game.
Hence the reason a scheme change can't hurt.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:37 pm to Shane4689
Pookie won't last half a season.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:41 pm to RB10
quote:yea, but pounding the rock with Kansas-level O-line talent isn't the scheme change that's necessary.
Hence the reason a scheme change can't hurt.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:43 pm to atltiger6487
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yea, but pounding the rock with Kansas-level O-line talent isn't the scheme change that's necessary.
You people really need to watch some Big 12 football sometimes. This isn't the SEC. Pounding the rock isn't going to meet with much resistance.
The only question is will they be able to score enough to win a conference game or 2 when they're getting 35+ dropped on them every game.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:45 pm to atltiger6487
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Run it out of pass formations. Run it on first down. Run it when the defense isn't expecting it.
Running it on first down is the most predictable thing you can do. Passing on first down is the best way to keep the defense off balance. Doing that just 40% of the time would be an improvement for Miles. Forgot which year it was but we had a 72% rate of running the ball on first down which is way too high.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:49 pm to IM_4_LSU
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The defenses in the BIG 12 are garbage though so it would not surprise me to see them have success. The offenses are far and away better than the defenses in the BIG 12 especially at the defensive line.
It's not necessarily about whether the defenses are trash or not. It's about the talent disparity between the offense and defense that are facing each other. Yes, the defenses are trash in that conference but the offensive talent at Kansas is equal or greater trash.
Therefore, without a large talent disparity in favor of Kansas offense, the Les Miles ground-and-pound isn't going to work.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:49 pm to RB10
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only if the offense has a physically dominant offensive line. If not, it's like running into a brick wall.
quote:if the offense is predictable, virtually any defense can stack the box and make it tough, especially since Kansas' O-line won't be physically superior.
More like a soft mattress in the Big 12.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:49 pm to atltiger6487
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ok, Pooka's good. But I can use stats too.
How about this: Kansas was 105 last year in scoring and 109 in total yards per game.
I have mo problem with your stats. That's what makes what Pooka accomplished that much better.
He is by far the best player on the team. The other teams know they only have to cover or stop him to stop Kansas and he still put up those numbers. It was really surprising what he did at the end of the season against Oklahoma and Texas. the best defenses in the B12.
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