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re: Les Miles expects old school approach will benefit Jayhawks
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:20 pm to Shane4689
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:20 pm to Shane4689
By the time Miles upgrades the talent level, it will be too late.
They are going to get beat down with that style of play with the current talent in that program.
If nothing else, they might have a more disciplined team which will pay some dividends.
Outside of Texas and OU, no reason Kansas can't at least be competitive with the rest of the conference.
They are going to get beat down with that style of play with the current talent in that program.
If nothing else, they might have a more disciplined team which will pay some dividends.
Outside of Texas and OU, no reason Kansas can't at least be competitive with the rest of the conference.
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:20 pm to nola000
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The teams that have the most successful offenses are teams that are dynamic, trick, misdirect and out scheme teams. Not teams that lineup and telegraph power run plays and 3rd and long play action.
So you're saying that Kansas won't be competing for the SEC chamionship year in, year out?
Whew, good to know.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:20 pm to Shane4689
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Les Miles expects old school approach will benefit Jayhawks
In a league where they score more points than basketball teams, he'll get blown out.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:21 pm to nicholastiger
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By the time Miles upgrades the talent level, it will be too late.
If he can get them to a bowl game in any of the first 3 seasons he'll be there until he retires.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:21 pm to KennesawTiger
Do you think it's an accident that nobody runs that style of offense anymore? The few teams that do severely underachieve relative to their talent.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:26 pm to GentleJackJones
No one in the Big 12 plays defense. It's not the SEC West up there.
They'll give up points, but they'll put 'em up too.
Kansas losses will be because of lack of talent and Les' inability to manage a clock.
Scheme won't hurt anything that isn't already deficient.
They'll give up points, but they'll put 'em up too.
Kansas losses will be because of lack of talent and Les' inability to manage a clock.
Scheme won't hurt anything that isn't already deficient.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:27 pm to GentleJackJones
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In a league where they score more points than basketball teams, he'll get blown out.
I think it'll depend on the scoring percentage per # of drives tends to be pretty high for air raid type offenses because it's easier to get in the end zone then it is to line up in the i-formation and try to pound your way in.
If Kansas can keep the sticks moving and bleed clock then they can limit the number of drives that those type of offenses will have thus keeping the score lower. Only problem is, with the talent he's going to get at Kansas he won't be able to keep the sticks moving with that type of grind-it-out offense and that type of offense generally doesn't have as great a red zone scoring percentage as spread systems.
In short, barring some miraculous recruiting turn around, Kansas still going to lose a lot of games. Maybe even more.
One thing to remember, the spread it out, RPO, triple option, air raid, modern offenses were created specifically for teams with weaker talent to exploit better teams.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:28 pm to RB10
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If he can get them to a bowl game in any of the first 3 seasons he'll be there until he retires.
He's handicapping himself by trying to do this now against teams that very easily can put up 40+ without blinking an eye
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:29 pm to VOR
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there is something pretty great about having a power running game that seems like almost no one can stop, certainly not completely.
its Kansas.... people will stop it
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:29 pm to lsutigertalk
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Look at Stanford. They run a different style of offense and play a different kind of football which is why they have success.
In this short youtube video Herby tells Musburger that Stanford runs a "very sophisticated offense with a lot of communication".
Stanford @ USC 2013
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:29 pm to nola000
Kansas loses 8-9 games a year playing Big 12 offense. It's clearly not giving them any real advantage.
If you you can't beat 'em, try something else. That's why Kansas and Les are a good fit.
6-6 will make admin and fans happy enough, and Miles doesn't have to change.
If you you can't beat 'em, try something else. That's why Kansas and Les are a good fit.
6-6 will make admin and fans happy enough, and Miles doesn't have to change.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:31 pm to Shane4689
Teams have to be very disciplined or very talented to make that work in 2019. Not looking good for Les.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:32 pm to Tiger Ree
Funny you try to make your point with a video in which the offense was struggling because of something as simple as crowd noise.
The reason that modern offenses are successful is exactly because they don't require a lot of communication or thinking. It's stripped down and simplified to make quick and simple reads and assignment decisions and to get the defense out of position.
These are amateurs. The last thing you want them doing is thinking too much. Use their athletic ability. They're not professionals
The reason that modern offenses are successful is exactly because they don't require a lot of communication or thinking. It's stripped down and simplified to make quick and simple reads and assignment decisions and to get the defense out of position.
These are amateurs. The last thing you want them doing is thinking too much. Use their athletic ability. They're not professionals
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:33 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
You guys are really underestimating the Big 12 ineptitude on defense.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:33 pm to thunderbird1100
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He's handicapping himself by trying to do this now against teams that very easily can put up 40+ without blinking an eye
They scored 23 PPG last year with 2300 yards passing. Their offense can't get much worse and their best player, by a very wide margin, is their running back.
ETA: It's Pooka Williams from Louisiana for those who don't know. A lot of our fans wanted him here.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:34 pm to KennesawTiger
Fair enough.
It'll be interesting to watch, none the less. I'm definitely going to tune in when I have time. Can't wait to see the conversations we have on tRant over this.
It'll be interesting to watch, none the less. I'm definitely going to tune in when I have time. Can't wait to see the conversations we have on tRant over this.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:36 pm to RB10
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A power running scheme may be pretty successful in that baby shite soft conference.
I can envision the Oklahoma St coach's post-game press conference:
Coach: DAMNIT, I AM A MAN, I'M 45 and have never seen so many trick plays in a game before. They didn't even throw the ball to the RB once. The QB just kept handing the ball to him, play after play after play. They even had the TE blocking every play. I think that is illegal in this conference, I have a call scheduled with the conference commissioner on Monday.
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? Are you staring at my Mullet? I AM A MAN DAMNIT !!!"
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:36 pm to Shane4689
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Les Miles expects old school approach will benefit Jayhawks
of course he does.
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"The days of lolly gagging with sissy passing and innovative offenses are over. We gonna pound the rock and be physical. This is not your uncles offense anymore"
This sounds familiar...Love you, but never change Les
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:38 pm to lsutigertalk
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I will say bucking the trend of the conference is the way to go. If everyone is pass happy, run the football. Look at Stanford. They run a different style of offense and play a different kind of football which is why they have success. If they tried to play real PAC 12 style football they would be a sub par team instead of an average team.
The problem is Kansas doesn't and may never have the size and talent to run Miles' offense successfully. He had enough trouble his last years at LSU doing this. he's not going to be able to just overpower substantially more talented teams doing that, and Kansas is at the bottom of that conference in talent.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:38 pm to Shane4689
Who cares. Glad he's gone.
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