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re: les miles cant develop talent??

Posted on 9/9/10 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by 2ndServe
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 9/9/10 at 12:42 pm to
never a shortage of dumbasses on the rant. Miles is the winningest coach in LSU history. But to ranters who couldn't coach pee wee he is not good enough. Thanks pimple face freshman and thier dad's.
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
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Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 12:56 pm to
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our youth


on offense or defense?

On offense we have 2 Soph on the 0-line and thats about it, the offensive line that everyone has been praising post UNC. I dont count Sheppard and Randle as they are ridiculous playmakers, and are playing as a result of their talent, not necessity due to lack of depth.

You cannot use the youth excuse on offense, its play calls.
Posted by LSU Acadian
Jefferson GA,
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/9/10 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by WacoTiger
Waco, Texas
Member since Nov 2003
3708 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 1:26 pm to
Correct me if I am wrong, but Miles has only lost to 1 non-SEC team (Penn State on a muddy field) in 5 years. I seem to recall that Saban lost to 4 non-SEC teams in 4 years, including the perennial powerhouse - UAB. Saban was also 2-3 vs Florida during his tenure, including 2 blow-out losses.

Anything else?
Posted by BCS Statmaster
Member since Jan 2007
1552 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 1:31 pm to
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Correct me if I am wrong, but Miles has won less SEC titles and National Championships than Saban


Fixed it...might be some indicator of talent/development.
Posted by Teacher
Member since Sep 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 1:56 pm to
Miles first 3 years were great, the best in LSU history. The last 2 years plus the start of this year has been the down low ( the team has not looked good ). This is due to no first string QB recruited and an OLINE that is not good (Miles recruits)
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/9/10 at 1:59 pm to
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The last 2 years plus the start of this year has been the down low ( the team has not looked good )
i'm not pleased with the record but i can live with it. the style of play is another matter. too much bullshite for Miles to stay on my christmas list.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 9/9/10 at 2:02 pm to
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Correct me if I am wrong, but Miles has won less SEC titles and National Championships than Saban
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Fixed it...might be some indicator of talent/development.






Not true. If we use NegaTiger standards, Saban's first SEC Title doesn't count- he won it using Dinardo's players, 2 years removed.
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
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Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 2:04 pm to
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When it comes to the "developement of players", the only credit they are willing to extend to Miles is for the players who DON'T develope into an NFL- caliber player.


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The last time I checked, LSU has as many players on NFL rosters as anyone else.



So do you give DiNardo credit for developing Faneca, Faulk, McClure into NFL veterans
Posted by CHSvideoman
B/t Spanish Town & Beauregard Town
Member since Oct 2009
1648 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 2:04 pm to
Lately I agree that he can't develop talent, or he just doesn't trust his freshman. I just say its better to try and be proven wrong than never try at all. I mean RS had 2 TD's on 7 touches, I know that's somewhat inflated because of the situation, but still.
Posted by BCS Statmaster
Member since Jan 2007
1552 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 2:05 pm to
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Not true. If we use NegaTiger standards


Truth is irrespective of personal opinion...
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69060 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 2:09 pm to
"Ill give him this...he has recruited well. and he did hire Bo Pelini... "
how quickly you forget the rant calling for bps head after the Arizona state and Tennessee debacle. Not to mention our outstanding defensive efforts against Arkansas and uk in 07. Give me a break this shite is getting old and sad. So Nebraska wins 9 games and their program is now turned around and in better position than lsu? By the way Nebraska has always been better than lsu before 2003.

We need to let the season play out. Cus guess what we can fire our coach and end up just like Nebraska did for several years.
This post was edited on 9/9/10 at 2:13 pm
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 2:13 pm to
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By the way Nebraska has always been better than lsu before 2003.


historically, tis true.
Posted by oleheat
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Member since Mar 2007
13538 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 2:28 pm to
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So do you give DiNardo credit for developing Faneca, Faulk, McClure into NFL veterans


Why not? Hell- I might even give Jerry Stovall some credit for Rydell Melancon, Lyman White, James Britt, and Eric Martin.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 2:34 pm to
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but if you recruit talent even if you can't develop talent you will put players in the NFL.


This
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9601 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 2:51 pm to
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We need to let the season play out.


the ability to turn a program around is the signature mark of a great coach...miles however turned the wrong fricking way...

Pelini > Miles...nough said..
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4725 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 2:58 pm to
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Pelini > Miles...nough said..


what has pelini done more in his two years than miles did in his first two years? who's players is he winning with? just a stupid argument.

Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51538 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 3:00 pm to
Pats signed a bunch of them because they already knew the defense.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7111 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 3:30 pm to
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Ya, Saban never went 8-5 or 9-3.


To make this argument is short-sighted, look at the trend, what has Alabama football done since Saban arrived and where is it now? what has the LSU program done since Les Miles took over and where is it now?
This post was edited on 9/9/10 at 3:32 pm
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4790 posts
Posted on 9/9/10 at 3:35 pm to
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Correct me if I am wrong, but Miles has won less SEC titles and National Championships than Saban
And it has taken Saban 9 years to do that. Miles has only had 5.
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