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re: LeMahieu designated for assignment by Yankees
Posted on 7/10/25 at 2:20 pm to OldmanBeasley
Posted on 7/10/25 at 2:20 pm to OldmanBeasley
Man, you can tell the casual vs who watches MLB in this thread.
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Posted on 7/10/25 at 2:22 pm to Schmelly
Posted on 7/10/25 at 3:00 pm to Tiger1988
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I can almost 100% assure you Sandberg’s WAR was not considered when he made the HoF.
Probably not so much as they do now. After decades of entrants it establishes a pretty firm baseline as to what a HoF’er should be.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 3:11 pm to SligoTiger
Yoshida OPS+
2023: 109
2024: 115
DJL
2023: 96
2024: 52
League average would be 100
2023: 109
2024: 115
DJL
2023: 96
2024: 52
League average would be 100
Posted on 7/10/25 at 4:44 pm to Papa Tigah
Sorry
Posted on 7/10/25 at 6:46 pm to Lester Earl
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Probably not so much as they do now.
They don’t as much as people want to believe because there’s no one answer for WAR.
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After decades of entrants it establishes a pretty firm baseline as to what a HoF’er should be
Which “it”? The argument has been for a short period one of those WAR is ok but not for a 10+ year career. Players tail off and numbers drop. Many do not use a version of WAR because of that as a sole point. There’s too much to the variability in the data when trying to crunch it down to a single number especially for pitchers and when considering a player’s defensive contribution getting to plays other couldn’t, as an example, look no further than Jack Morris.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 8:02 pm to Tiger1988
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They don’t as much as people want to believe
yes they do
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there’s no one answer for WAR.
I don't even know what that is supposed to mean.
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Players tail off and numbers drop.
hall of famers play well for a long time.
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There’s too much to the variability in the data
No there isnt. We've already established many times that you have no clue what WAR is, and you continue to confirm it with dumb shite like this.
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look no further than Jack Morris.
a charity selection who does not belong and blurs the line on what makes a HOF'er a HOFer. Along with several other veteran committee selection.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 8:08 pm to Schmelly
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Anybody saying otherwise hasn’t watched him play the last couple years. If a team were to look at him it would be to play 1B or DH. nobody is bringing him in to play 2 or 3. And you can’t have a bat like that in those positions on a contender
Exactly. He's honestly top 3 favorite tiger for me but he doesn't have a spot in NY anymore. His OBP is higher than his SLG at this point. He's just hitting singles when he does hit.
He could be a decent platoon piece for a team but NY has 2B, 1B, and DH locked up right now. He can't play 3B.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 9:11 pm to Lester Earl
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yes they do
How are you planning to prove this with the voters.
Show your work.
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I don't even know what that is supposed to mean.
Show your work. Which VERSION /SOURCE are you using, do they use? We know there are 3.
“fWAR refers to Fangraphs' calculation of WAR. bWAR or rWAR refer to Baseball-Reference's calculation. And WARP refers to Baseball Prospectus' statistic "Wins Above Replacement Player."”
If player A is absolutely great for 5 years and gets hurt, does he get in? I mean they could win 5 MVPs and be done. Has <1500 hits and 300 HRs and hit .330. His War would be great but reality not HoF worthy.
quote:wins above WHAT replacement? What average?
We've already established many times that you have no clue what WAR is, and you continue to confirm it with dumb shite like this.
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We've already established many times that you have no clue what WAR is, and you continue to confirm it with dumb shite like this.
For someone that watched him his entire career, I would have wanted him on the mound during the post season over everyone including Andy Pettitte. He was an arse though and there was the entire collusion issue.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 4:45 am to Tiger1988
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How are you planning to prove this with the voters. Show your work.
Are you asking me to prove that the voters take into account WAR?
You do understand this is widely considered common knowledge, right?
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Which VERSION /SOURCE are you using, do they use? We know there are 3. “fWAR refers to Fangraphs' calculation of WAR. bWAR or rWAR refer to Baseball-Reference's calculation. And WARP refers to Baseball Prospectus' statistic "Wins Above Replacement Player."”
There’s not enough fluctuation for it to matter which one is used.
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player A is absolutely great for 5 years and gets hurt, does he get in? I mean they could win 5 MVPs and be done. Has <1500 hits and 300 HRs and hit .330. His War would be great but reality not HoF worthy.
Idk, he could? That’s not exactly realistic based on history.
WAR is not a metric that pigeon holes a certain profile of player. There is a variety of ways to accumulate WAR. I’m not sure what you feel is unfair about it. Maybe you need to show your work
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For someone that watched him his entire career, I would have wanted him on the mound during the post season over everyone including Andy Pettitte. He was an arse though and there was the entire collusion issue.
Ya, so was Josh Beckett and Jon Lester and El Duque. Doesn’t mean they are HOF’ers
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:34 am to Lester Earl
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Yoshida OPS+
2023: 109
2024: 115
As opposed to:
Devers OPS+
2023: 126
2024: 142
2025: 140
Breslow went to Yale. No, really.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:45 am to GoneFishing21
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So you’ve watched all the Yankees games since he returned this season? Why don’t I believe that?
I have and hes been absolutely terrible in the field and can basically only hit singles.
You gave away that you dont know what you’re talking about saying the yankees moved jazz because he was bad at 3rd base.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:47 am to OldmanBeasley
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He has some subtle power too.
Agreed. Yoshida slashed .280/.349/.415 last season on basically one shoulder. The guy can rake.
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His running form is impeccable.
Watching him run is one of the subtle joys of baseball. I think All Star Weekend should feature a 40 yard dash between Yoshida and Alejandro Kirk. Must-see TV.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:46 am to SWLA92
It’s true that his legs seem shot.
At this point, he might just be a pinch hitter / emergency infielder.
At this point, he might just be a pinch hitter / emergency infielder.
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