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re: Last year a lot of you guys said our defense was better without Perkins

Posted on 9/3/25 at 7:45 am to
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 7:45 am to
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Nobody said that


So many idiots on here said that.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33967 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 7:48 am to
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This board also said they were happy Cory Raymond left because he was washed up


I got killed on here the day Kelly hired Kerry cooks.

Kelly could do no wrong.

He also let go of baker.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 7:49 am
Posted by Chase504jeffersonla
Member since Jul 2025
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 7:55 am to
Alit was said . Greg penn should’ve never been a starting linebacker for LSU .
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:02 am to
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Freshman Perk was a freak athlete. Once he bulked up he seemed to have lost all quickness.


This is the best quote in that thread.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31348 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:09 am to
I think the defense got better without Perkins because he was playing a position he’s just not cut out to play. We are better with Weeks in the middle and Perkins doing his thing. Missing him on the outside last year definitely hurt, but they really weren’t using him that way. My understanding is that was by his choice, not Bakers.

I think he’s gonna have a great year. I think this is where his skill set is.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:13 am to
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Nobody said that


A lot of people said it, and they were right in terms of him being used as an ILB. He’s just not that. He lacks the strength and instincts to be able to work around his size. We’ve tried it twice and it completely negated all of his strengths and magnified his weaknesses both times. If Blake Baker couldn’t turn him into an ILB, then no one can.

Unfortunately, we only got to see him in 3/4 of one game last season back in his preferred OLB/Star role before he got hurt, and he definitely played better for that little bit of time. He would have been back to turning heads if he had the chance to stay there last year.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 8:35 am
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33305 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:19 am to
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He’s 3lbs lighter than Weeks and exactly the same size as Debo Jones. It’s not a size issue he’s just not an ILB


No offense to Perkins, but call it what it is then- it’s a strength issue. He got eaten up on blocks and pushed around a lot playing ILB. Watch him and Whit both play and tell me I’m wrong.

Perkins could have worked around this if he had the instincts to play the position. That’s what was most lacking. He just didn’t have them, or the capacity to be taught the position by the right coach like a Damone Clarke.

All that matters is he’s in the right position now.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:24 am to
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This board also said they were happy Cory Raymond left because he was washed up


Well, go compare his position’s performance and recruiting his last two seasons here and at UF to right now and tell me there’s no difference. It was easy to assume he was washed up because he isn’t young anymore. But he was absolutely disengaged and not running at 100% for those 4 years.

He sure is right now, though. I think it was worth letting him go in 22 to have vintage Corey back today. A new DBU era seems to be dawning right now because of it.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33305 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:33 am to
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He also let go of baker.


It’s a good thing he did or Baker would either still be a LB coach or a DC at a smaller program just starting to work his way back up. It may not have been a good decision in a vacuum, but it worked out a lot better for us in the long run.

For the 100th time- Baker was one year removed from being fired as the DC as Miami. This board would have melted the frick down if he had been promoted to DC after a one year rehab as a LB coach here. Mizzou didn’t even hire him to be a DC. He was their Safeties Coach and their DC left for the NFL late in the offseason, so they promoted him because of his experience.

People’s hindsight gets really cloudy on this one.
Posted by stephendomalley
alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
6490 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:50 am to
if they were trying to use him like they did then yes. But playing him like they are now we are a much better team.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5363 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:02 am to
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Because they didn’t have him in the right position. He isn’t a linebacker.


He just wasn't playing well last year. And go back and watch the game the again. It might surprise some people here but guess what. Perk lined up at inside LB a good bit against Clemson. Older Weeks brother would leave the game. An extra DB would come in and Perkins would slide inside.

Edited to add- Also if a TE was split out into the short side Whit would walk out with him some and Perk would move into the box. He's playing a safety/LB hybrid and he's playing it well in his 2nd year under Baker. He wasn't good last year even when playing the star. He's a different dude this year.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 9:08 am
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42090 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:07 am to
I wonder if our d line is keeping Perk from being a stent up by blocks when he is inside

Definitely felt our of position, but will under id D-line is improving that


Perkins is back to electric and I love it

What position do you want to play? Wherever you need me. I loved that
Posted by idkbutcooksomerice
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:15 am to
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It was said many times


So last year he played well?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19811 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:21 am to
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Last year a lot of you guys said our defense was better without Perkins
no one ever questioned Perk's athleticism.

It's all about putting a player in the right position for his skill set. This year, Baker is doing that.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33305 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:17 pm to
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An extra DB would come in and Perkins would slide inside. Edited to add- Also if a TE was split out into the short side Whit would walk out with him some and Perk would move into the box. He's playing a safety/LB hybrid and he's playing it well in his 2nd year under Baker. He wasn't good last year even when playing the star. He's a different dude this year.


Perkins played better in the UCLA game than he did as a full-time ILB. He just didn’t get much time in the role.

The biggest issue he had playing inside for entire games over the last two years was diagnosing run vs pass and especially playing run fits as an ILB without getting blocked out of the play or lost in the wash. Now they are sliding him inside in passing situations where we want to play Nickle.

It’s a good thing that Perk seems to be handing this well. One of the areas some “experts” said he would be exploited by offenses was then forcing us to either play Perkins or a Safety 1 on 1 vs WRs vs 4 wide. That would force us to play 1 high Safety a ton and occasionally Zero. Even though he handled the coverage role better than expected in 23, he still got schemed away from the box far too easily and often.

Having him matched up on a TE, RB, or spying the QB keeps him where the action is and we get another of our talented DBs on the field for coverage. Several people predicted that we would see Perkins line up as a DE in some pass rush packages (media people said we ran this some at practice), but that’s probably only good for 1-3 snaps per game. Having Perkins slide inside on a passing down is much better.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 12:30 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65668 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:18 pm to
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Last year a lot of you guys said our defense was better without Perkins


I don't recall a lot of people saying that, but it was definitely better without him at MLB. That was a mistake.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5363 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:26 pm to
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I don't recall a lot of people saying that, but it was definitely better without him at MLB.


He was playing Will but I agree. And he played the Will at times against Clemson. The difference this year so far is the defensive line is keeping the LBs clean and that allows Perk to be Perk Also another year under Baker who is excellent at coaching up LBs.
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
14863 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 1:33 pm to
You guys should blame Coach Kelly then. A lot of people last year were saying they can care less if Perkins transfers. He’s overrated anyhow, etc
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5363 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 1:43 pm to
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You guys should blame Coach Kelly then. A lot of people last year were saying they can care less if Perkins transfers. He’s overrated anyhow, etc


Perkins has vastly improved. He is a different player this year. Also having great players around him helps play freely. He was bad last year. Just go watch the film. Effort specifically, but Baker has worked his magic on him. He has him playing well. Hopefully he continues on this path.
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