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re: Last spring Blake Sims was no better than AJ . . .
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:06 pm to LongTime Tiger
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:06 pm to LongTime Tiger
The offense was changed for sims to be successful. LK matched up his best players and called plays to sims strength. AJ has very little skill and has no chance when cam is trying to jam him into a offense he will never be capable of running. AJ can't drop back 3 steps and hit a slant, Aj is much better at just throwing deep jump balls.
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:21 pm to LongTime Tiger
AJ does not have a throwing arm, Blake does
Their raw talent level is different
Their raw talent level is different
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:39 pm to CamdenTiger
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Wasn't Sims a 5th year Senior?
Yes, that came in as a running back.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:44 pm to LongTime Tiger
Sims didn't look that great last night. His mistakes were really bad decisions or physically bad throws.
I personally don't see him translating well to the NFL.
I personally don't see him translating well to the NFL.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:52 pm to CamdenTiger
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Wasn't Sims a 5th year Senior?
He was also a running back.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:53 pm to TheBob
Then why was he even recruited? Still falls on the staff
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:01 pm to LongTime Tiger
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But somewhere between then and the middle of the season he became a pretty good QB.
If AJ had been developed (or B Harris) where would we have been in bowl season. Or even if we had played to his strengths?
The fact that you have delusions any coach could develop AJ into a Blame Sims is troubling.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:09 pm to LongTime Tiger
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But somewhere between then and the middle of the season he became a pretty good QB.
Sims is shite.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:09 pm to MarlinMan
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We don't have anybody on staff that can develop QB's and call plays that help the younger QB's out
Cam Cameron had a lot to do with Flacco being a SB QB. He worked with, and improved Mettenberger. Probably just a lack of passing philosophy. This needs to change. If I was Malachi Dupre, I would also be SMH. We need a duel threat offense and we need it NOW.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:14 pm to LongTime Tiger
Sorry for the negative comment here...ain't gonna happen unless we change the offensive scheme. Then AJ may have a chance to use his skills. He can pass, just needs time.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:17 pm to TigerintheNO
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You are comparing a 5th year senior's development to a soph and a true freshman
this is so misleading.
Yes, Sim's was a 5th year senior, but a first year starter at QB who didn't take a meaningful snap before this year. And he had a brand new OC this year too.
So please stop using this argument for why Sims was effective. It was coaching and offensive scheme that made Sims into what he was this year.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:19 pm to GeeOH
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Sims didn't look that great last night. His mistakes were really bad decisions or physically bad throws. I personally don't see him translating well to the NFL.
We're not talking about NFL potential. Stay on topic.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:19 pm to atltiger6487
quote:No
So please stop using this argument for why Sims was effective.
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It was coaching and offensive scheme that made Sims into what he was this year.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:25 pm to TigerintheNO
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how soon we forget Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate *2012 Louisiana State SEC JR QB 13 207 352 58.8 2609 7.4 7.2 12 7 128.3 *2013 Louisiana State SEC SR QB 12 192 296 64.9 3082 10.4 10.7 22 8 171.4
Again, misleading.
The big jump by Mett from 2012 to 2013 was bringing in Cam. By default, Mett was going to improve relative to the disaster that was Stud.
Yes, Mett improved from 2012 to 2013. But I'm not sure how much of that can be attributed to "QB development" or simply the fact that we brought in a competent OC to replace the Stud nightmare.
And oh by the way, we had a stud OL, two NFL receivers, and an NFL running back. Les surely gets credit for recruiting those guys, but this topic is about QBs.
So did Les/Cam "develop" Mett between 2012 and 2013? It's not as simple as merely looking at statistics. You have to drill deeper.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:28 pm to AlxTgr
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quote: It was coaching and offensive scheme that made Sims into what he was this year.
AlxTgr: Why in the world are you laughing at this statement?
You think Sims is just blessed with extreme talent and blossomed this year on his own? Hell, they didn't even name Sims the starter until just before the first game.
I hate Kiffin as much as anyone, but I'm not so blinded to see that he did one hell of a job this year with Sims and the Bama offense.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:36 pm to Goldrush25
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One usually goes to USC.
Well then why don't we go all in on the other one every other year? If it doesn't pan out then we can go with a "spread" (dual threat) as our back up? Why did we run off Rettig, the guy most suited for our type of O (of the 3).
You can say this until you're blue in the face but it doesn't change reality, we need to change our offense to suit the players we get/have a chance to get or we will be behind the eight-ball for ever.
Are we really supposed to be content with a good QB every 4-5 years and the reality that we can't compete for championships because we have a mass exodus of JRs every season on top of our "QB play" (if you can even call it that)? I for one refuse to accept 2-3 SEC losses and the Cotton Bowl or worse every season, what say you?
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:28 pm to atltiger6487
quote:Explain the scheme part. Is there some magical scheme out there that would stop AJ from missing wide open receivers less than 15 yards from him?
AlxTgr: Why in the world are you laughing at this statement?
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:38 pm to sosimpo1
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Well then why don't we go all in on the other one every other year? If it doesn't pan out then we can go with a "spread" (dual threat) as our back up? Why did we run off Rettig, the guy most suited for our type of O (of the 3).
You can say this until you're blue in the face but it doesn't change reality, we need to change our offense to suit the players we get/have a chance to get or we will be behind the eight-ball for ever.
Are we really supposed to be content with a good QB every 4-5 years and the reality that we can't compete for championships because we have a mass exodus of JRs every season on top of our "QB play" (if you can even call it that)? I for one refuse to accept 2-3 SEC losses and the Cotton Bowl or worse every season, what say you?
I guess the answer to your Rettig question is obvious, he wasn't any good.
Having a pro-style QB is one thing. He has to have talent too. Why do you think they're so in demand? Odds are against any school landing one of 3 elite QBs in any given year. We had one in Kiel, he got away though.
Maybe the offense does need to change. That's another conversation. People are wondering why our QBs aren't being "developed" and there's a clear reason why. It's because they've never played the position in the manner that's being asked of them. It's the old square-peg-in-round-hole thing.
LSU can target the very few elite pro-style prospects every year but when the staff doesn't land them, they still have to fill those slots with someone. Having highly rated "duel-threat" QBs is better than signing players that simply shouldn't be playing the SEC.
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:42 pm to CaptainColeSlaw
Stop with the QB development. Cam did great with Mett who was a senior and talented. Harris is 19 and talented but needs to learn responsibility. Until then, you have an undertalented AJ. We had nobody at the position that graduated HS earlier than 2013!
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:51 pm to LongTime Tiger
Blake Sims' smarts > a cabbage
AJ/BH smarts < a cabbage
AJ/BH smarts < a cabbage
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