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Lacy's catch
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:50 am
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:50 am
Sorry if this has been answered already. And not that it really matters. But why wasn't this a catch? Does the heel not count? Perhaps there is some weird rule that I don't know about?
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Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:51 am to geauxlobo
Has to be whole foot. It was the right call.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:51 am to geauxlobo
Refs controlled the game for Bama, per usual
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:51 am to pkf4lsu
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Has to be whole foot.
Toes count?
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:52 am to geauxlobo
Foot clearly touched the line. Heel only counts if the rest of the foot doesn't touch ground.
No weird rules. Football 101.
No weird rules. Football 101.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:53 am to geauxlobo
A toe does.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:53 am to pkf4lsu
yep...kind of the way our night went.....everything went their way. We make a big offensive play, we get holding. We finally get off the field on defense, we get a penalty to extend the drive.
The real comical call was the TD call on the ground where everyone in America could see his elbow was down prior to the goal line....except the replay ref. Reminds me of Patrick P interception that wasn't called.
The real comical call was the TD call on the ground where everyone in America could see his elbow was down prior to the goal line....except the replay ref. Reminds me of Patrick P interception that wasn't called.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:54 am to White Tiger
Never mind, just checked with ChatGPT ..
"In NCAA football, a catch is not awarded if any part of the receiver’s foot touches out of bounds before they establish control of the ball with both feet or another body part inbounds. If a receiver's heel lands inbounds but then their toes touch out of bounds before full possession and control are established, the pass is ruled incomplete.
The rules are based on establishing control of the ball with a legal catch stance. For a catch to count, the receiver must get at least one foot or body part down inbounds after gaining control of the ball without any subsequent contact with the boundary line."
"In NCAA football, a catch is not awarded if any part of the receiver’s foot touches out of bounds before they establish control of the ball with both feet or another body part inbounds. If a receiver's heel lands inbounds but then their toes touch out of bounds before full possession and control are established, the pass is ruled incomplete.
The rules are based on establishing control of the ball with a legal catch stance. For a catch to count, the receiver must get at least one foot or body part down inbounds after gaining control of the ball without any subsequent contact with the boundary line."
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:54 am to pkf4lsu
I’m sure that would have been a td for bama
Not enough evidence to overturn
Not enough evidence to overturn
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:54 am to JimTiger72
quote:This is wrong and had nothing to do with the outcome.
Refs controlled the game for Bama, per usual
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:55 am to pkf4lsu
they are really good at making the right call when it benefits Alabama
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:55 am to JimTiger72
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Toes count?
If the heel never touches the ground then yes. But if the toes touch then the heel touches out of bounds then you are out of bounds. This isn’t some new rule. If you could somehow catch the ball with your heel down and your toes never touching then that would count too.
This post was edited on 11/10/24 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:57 am to geauxlobo
I believe it has to do with how your foot lands. With your toes you can toe drag and fall forward (think thad moss catch) so your foot never hits the ground. With your heel, if you fall backwards (think heels in falling backwards out the back of the endzone) it could be seen the same way but Lacys foot fell forward out of bounds/on the line so no catch.
This post was edited on 11/10/24 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:04 pm to LSBoosie
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If the heel never touches the ground then yes. But if the toes touch then the heel touches out of bounds then you are out of bounds. This isn’t some new rule
Interesting. If a player is falling backwards, catches the ball, heel touches but then lands on his butt out of bounds without touching a toe in bounds ... is that a catch?
But, as for Lacy, that is not a catch. Thanks for the rule reminder.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:07 pm to geauxlobo
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If a player is falling backwards, catches the ball, heel touches but then lands on his butt out of bounds without touching a toe in bounds ... is that a catch?
Yes
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:12 pm to geauxlobo
I thought their receiver was out of bounds on their first pass of the game. When we flushed their qb, they didn't even look at it. And the targeting?
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:15 pm to pkf4lsu
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Has to be whole foot. It was the right call.
Makes no sense because if it was the toes instead of the heel it would count. This rule should be adjusted.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:16 pm to geauxlobo
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Does the heel not count?
What is the heel attached to?
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:18 pm to geauxlobo
I thought it was going to stand because bama’s touchdown stood after clear video evidence
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:19 pm to pkf4lsu
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Has to be whole foot. It was the right call.
Does it? I see catches called when just a toe is dragged.
It seems to be what counts is the whole area of the foot that makes contact with the ground. So theoretically, if Lacy had only let his heel make contact and then picked his foot up, it would have been a catch.
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