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re: Lacy's Attorney Responds to LSP Video

Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:56 pm to
A guy that writes sentences like these calling anyone else an idiot is high comedy.
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Kyren is the reason the accident happen.

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Lady in the Kia is also the reason the accident happen.

Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:58 pm to
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My thoughts exactly Like a nasty wound that just keeps getting picked at. Are they angling in on dollars in civil court? Is Ory trying to raise his profile and Kyren’s family is cool with it? Is there some type of political outcome in play? Beyond fricking bizarre




The same reason a state school will soon have an arena named after a local law firm: exposure means more name awareness, which means next time someone needs an attorney, they know who to call.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30338 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:04 pm to
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A guy that writes sentences like these calling anyone else an idiot is high comedy.

Well cheers my fellow idiot.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25917 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:11 pm to
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Ory releases select clips of video and tries to talk in yards and make it look like Kyren didn’t cause this.


I know it’s been spoken about ad nauseam in these threads, but those ~90 yds, which would have been closer for the gold truck that reacted first, would have been covered in a little ~2 seconds at 88 mph.
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:19 pm to
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. If there had been no businesses in that area and had been a legal passing zone, Lacy making a legal pass


LOL.. where is that law written, I am just curious. ... I had no idea it was legal to double the speed limit to pass another vehicle.


** side note **

I have not seen KLs attorney give this number out....he seems to know all of the numbers and feet but is not sharing this.... before KLs vehicle reentered the correct lane, how many seconds was he away from a head on collision with the gold truck?
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27178 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:28 pm to
Around 2 seconds if neither slowed down at all and Lacy was going 88mph
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25917 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:34 pm to
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before KLs vehicle reentered the correct lane, how many seconds was he away from a head on collision with the gold truck?


If the wreck was ~ 92 yards in front of Lacy when he re-entered the correct lane, he was less than 92 yards away from the gold truck. At 88mph, you are going 43yds/s. So, you’d cover ~90 yards in a little over 2 seconds.

However, that distance would close even faster once you take into account the speed of the oncoming gold truck as well, before that driver reacted. If that driver is doing the 40mph speed limit, they are traveling at ~20 yds/s.

So….driver of the gold truck reacted to move off the road because his brain calculated he was 1.4s away from a head on collision, with the assumptions above about his rate of speed and using 90 yards as the distance.

Though, the distance when he first reacted was probably greater than the 90 yards, what with reaction times.




Is 92 yards the correct distance?
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 3:08 pm to
GFYWAAD
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4488 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 3:13 pm to
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There’s no right or wrong answer here, obviously we all have opinions. I’m just giving mine that while both drivers did bad things, I think Lacy’s driving was worse and had more potential to result in a critical/major accident.


I’m not suggesting Lacy shouldn’t have been charged with reckless driving here, but my question wasn’t about potential. It was about the actual factors that contributed to this specific accident. I have seen nothing that suggests that the area being a no passing zone had any impact of the events that day. If there were no businesses along the road side, it would have been a legal passing zone and Lacy’s passing other vehicles in and of itself would have been a legal maneuver. The legality or illegality of the pass didn’t change the outcome of this particular incident even if it did carry with it more potential for danger under different circumstances.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4488 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 4:32 pm to
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If the wreck was ~ 92 yards in front of Lacy when he re-entered the correct lane, he was less than 92 yards away from the gold truck.


That’s not true since the wreck took place AFTER Lacy was back in his lane. The wreck took place almost in the same spot as the gold truck was after another second or two of travel. Lacy was at least 100 yards from the gold truck at the time he returned to his lane.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4488 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 4:44 pm to
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You and the person you responded to are idiots. Kyren is the reason the accident happen. Trying to say he didn’t cause this is ignorant and idiotic.


That’s not what I said. I said it wasn’t the illegality of Lacy’s actions in and of itself that caused the accident. He could have been passing legally in a similar location without businesses along the road side and the end result still would have been the same. Those who want to shift the majority of the blame to Lacy are doing so based on the fact that he was driving recklessly. What I’m asking for is how his recklessness contributed more to the crash than if he had made a legal pass with all other circumstances the same.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52205 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 4:54 pm to
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Around 2 seconds if neither slowed down at all and Lacy was going 88mph


I’ve already given you the math once and proven this is flat wrong. Do you really want me to do it again?

The answer is less than 1 second.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52205 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 4:56 pm to
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Is 92 yards the correct distance?


According to his attorney it was 73 yards.

At 88 MPH and the truck driving 30 it was less than a second before they would have hit head on.
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 4:57 pm
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27178 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:30 pm to
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less than a second before they would have hit head on.

Nope. Try again.

"The evidence obtained from the Go Bears camera and (Driver 2)'s vehicle refudiate this statement. One second before the crash (and before any evasive action was taken by (Driver 2)), Kyren Lacy and (Driver 2)'s vehicles were 361.4 feet (120.4 yards) apart. "

88mph = 129.067 feet per second
30mph = 44 feet per second
361/174 = 2.07 seconds

and that isn't counting that lacy was slowing down for the entire 2 seconds they were approaching each other.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
2267 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:47 pm to
ABC News has obtained the April 2025 report by the DA's office of Lafourche Parish. They report that the Matt Ory accurately represented that same report in his original video.
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- "The report provided to this office by Louisiana State Police has several inconsistencies which were used to base their opinion and conclusion of the crash."

- Had it been a stretch of roadway where cars were permitted to pass each other, the prosecutor's report said the point at which Lacy returned to his lane would have been three times the required distance and he "would not have been responsible for any crash."

- But according to the DA's report, "the evidence submitted in the crash report does not support that Kyren Lacy should have known that his actions were the cause of the crash."

ABC News "Prosecutor's report disputed police claims about fatal crash that led to Kyren Lacy's arrest"

I know it won't change people's opinion of what happened or how slimy Matt Ory might be, but it does substantiate what he said from the very beginning.

Cheers.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27776 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:39 pm to
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not anyone involved in this scenario, but Lafourche parish does have people with money.
I know but it aint Funyun lady so where is the case or is this just a publicity run?
Posted by sgbenne
Merrimack, NH
Member since Nov 2011
104 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:40 pm to
It would have been a good argument by Lacy's defense that the vehicle that turned off the road was an "intervening cause" of the death of the man. In law, the "defense" of "intervening cause" refers to events that occur after the initial act that may have affected the outcome, and that would (potentially) break the "chain of causation" between the defendant's actions and the victim's death. If an intervening cause is deemed foreseeable, it won't absolve the defendant of liability; but an unforeseeable intervening cause likely does relieve them of responsibility. In Lacy's case, it would be tough to prove that Lacy could reasonably foresee that (1) passing a car -- even at high speeds, could cause the driver of the passed car to decide to suddenly turn off the road, and that it would (2) then cause the trailing vehicle -- who was admittedly driving too close behind the turning vehicle, to turn into oncoming traffic and strike the vehicle that had as its' passenger the person who died.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52205 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 10:33 pm to
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Nope. Try again. "The evidence obtained from the Go Bears camera and (Driver 2)'s vehicle refudiate this statement. One second before the crash (and before any evasive action was taken by (Driver 2)), Kyren Lacy and (Driver 2)'s vehicles were 361.4 feet (120.4 yards) apart. "


Driver 2 is the car, the question was about the gold truck. So even through you’re finally using the correct equation (you’re welcome) your values are wrong.

So, you’re the one who needs to try again.

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and that isn't counting that lacy was slowing down for the entire 2 seconds they were approaching each other.


They were approaching each other the entire time Lacy was in the wrong lane you fricking waterhead.

Lacy didn’t ease down his speed. He locked his brakes up and swerved back into his own lane. You can literally hear the screeching on the video.
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 10:38 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52205 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 10:46 pm to
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it would be tough to prove that Lacy could reasonably foresee that (1) passing a car -- even at high speeds, could cause the driver of the passed car to decide to suddenly turn off the road, and that it would (2) then cause the trailing vehicle -- who was admittedly driving too close behind the turning vehicle, to turn into oncoming traffic and strike the vehicle that had as its' passenger the person who died.


1. Lacy’s attorney would lose this argument since it is a no passing zone.

2. It wasn’t the “passed” car that reacted. It was the lead vehicle in the opposite lane that reacted to Lacy coming head on at an extremely high rate of speed.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4488 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:11 pm to
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Driver 2 is the car, the question was about the gold truck. So even through you’re finally using the correct equation (you’re welcome) your values are wrong.


While true, the car was following too closely behind the gold truck, so she definitely wasn’t almost 50 yards behind the truck as the 73 yards you are trying to claim were between Lacy and the truck. Lacy was 92 yards from the crash site when he was fully returned to his lane. The crash occurred 1-2 seconds later, so the truck and the car were further away than 92 yards away from Lacy at the time he returned to his lane. The gold truck was probably 110-115 yards away if the car was 120. That is more than 3x the distance required in making a legal pass. Yes, it was a no passing zone, but that didn’t really play into the crash itself. It wasn’t a lack of visibility or a car pulling into the road from a parking lot/driveway. The law believes that being over 100 yards away should have been well more than enough space not to impede oncoming traffic and certainly enough space to avoid a collision.
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