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re: La Tech or Georgia southern?

Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:50 pm to
I’m not a strong tech fan but I know if they hadn’t had 2 very questionable calls go against them last year at LSU, we would have had our hands full. And they are better this year
Posted by CajunRocks
Ruston
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:12 pm to
Tech would smoke GSU.
Posted by GSUsTALON
Lakeland, Fll & Saint Simons Is, Ga
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:21 pm to
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JEFF - I’m not a strong tech fan but I know if they hadn’t had 2 very questionable calls go against them last year at LSU, we would have had our hands full. And they are better this year


Sadly GSU will give you a better game without 2 very questionable calls !
Posted by EXPLAYER
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 9:48 pm to
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Posted by iamandykeim
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 9:56 pm to
in terms or the offense, La Tech is better to play leading into that week 2 game. GSU’s triple option offense is nothing like what texas does. although I heard they’re about to start spreading it out so maybe I’m wrong?
Posted by ulmtiger
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 7:34 am to
I have a feeling we haven’t heard the end of this la tech thing since we have texas as a common opponent. La tech wants so bad to be something they are not. Go to past years recruiting and please realize that if you stay in the game with Texas you will have done great. And also realize that if you beat Texas with that talent it would be a fluke. Think ulm beating ala or ark. If you are better or worse that ga southern means nothing. The state schools are your competitors even if you decide to play in one of the worst conferences in football. But this guarantees you wins and a nice little bowl game and keeps hopes up that you will beat someone you shouldn’t. We will never hear the end of this if the fluke win against Texas does come and LSU loses to Texas
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 7:37 am to
Nobody is saying Tech will beat Texas, but they’ve given LSU some very uncomfortable games in BR. They’re a salty team who can be dangerous if you let them hang around.

If they beat Texas, it will be because UT was looking ahead to week 2, not because they are at the same talent level.
Posted by saintlad74
Shreveport
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:14 am to
Rather play against traditional offense than option.

It seems like Option allows for teams to get easier first down, extend drives and eventually wear out opposing defenses over the course of a game

If the opposing offenses have a hard time scoring on their first several series, that could carry over to their defense. The defense is thinking "what can they do?" The option allows for lesser talent teams to stay in the ball games against bigger teams. That is why you see them run it. Look at the service academies, they all run an option type offense

That is at least what I have noticed over the years.
Posted by Pike51
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:41 am to
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Posted by slimySand
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:46 am to
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So you are comparing a mid level ACC team that has a hard time recruiting to one of the best SEC teams out their? SAD


You need to learn to go back and read what you posted before you start calling people out.

I said this:
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How did GT do in bowl games from 1999-2018? They won 6 out of 18 bowl game appearances. LSU has won 12 out of 19.


Because you said this:
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How did GT do in their 2014 and 2016 bowl games. THats what I expect from GSU this year!


I dont give a flying eff about Georgia Tech but you decided to compare how Georgia Tech beat two SEC teams in bowl games and that you expect the same results from a subpar team in the SunBelt conference. I responded that Georgia Tech has a trash record in bowl games. It proves the triple option is a weak offense to play against good teams.
Posted by Pike51
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:47 am to
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Rather play against traditional offense than option.

It seems like Option allows for teams to get easier first down, extend drives and eventually wear out opposing defenses over the course of a game

If the opposing offenses have a hard time scoring on their first several series, that could carry over to their defense. The defense is thinking "what can they do?" The option allows for lesser talent teams to stay in the ball games against bigger teams. That is why you see them run it. Look at the service academies, they all run an option type offense

That is at least what I have noticed over the years.


Pretty spot on. The option is basically an equalizer offense. It's one of the reasons Erk went with it when he started the program. If you've watched "We Are Marshall", they explain it pretty well. Ultimately, it's pure assignment football. If the defensive players can stay in their lane and do their assigned job, they can be successful against the option. But it's very difficult for highly talented players who are used to making the big plays to keep in line and not be tempted to come off their assignments.

If GS is going to be successful in this game, we have to execute quickly and LSU will need to have some guys out of position that we can take advantage of. I do not see us attempting to throw more than 2 or 3 times simply because we won't be able to straight up pass block effectively enough against your DL.

As far as your offense goes, if you line up and play smashmouth football against us, you will move the ball methodically and wear us out. Our 1's can prolly hang with your 1's... but your 2's and 3's will be the difference. We do not have the same level of talent depth as an SEC team.
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 8:51 am
Posted by GSUsTALON
Lakeland, Fll & Saint Simons Is, Ga
Member since Nov 2012
250 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:36 am to
Sorry I misunderstood your post Slimy.

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Slimy - I dont give a flying eff about Georgia Tech but you decided to compare how Georgia Tech beat two SEC teams in bowl games and that you expect the same results from a subpar team in the SunBelt conference. I responded that Georgia Tech has a trash record in bowl games.
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It proves the triple option is a weak offense to play against good teams
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TALON -Could GSU play 9 SEC teams in a season and win many games - NO, This year we are playing LSU & the Minnesota Gophers in 2 of our 3 OOC games. But you are just one SEC team. The only real advantage I give LSU is that you have had 2 weeks to prepare for a G5 team and have more depth in which to rotate your offensive and defensive players.

The Triple Option whether it be Pal Johnsons Spread Triple Option or the Shotgun Option is still a viable offense even today. You do have the right personnel and coaching staff to run it & the right defensive staff & personnel so the total load is not all placed on the offense. If you watched many GT games over the years the GTs defense was a bigger problem than there offense. GT played many games that the defense lost the game for them!

Oh by the way I highlighted some of your interesting points in the quote above. I understand your noise just fine!
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 11:42 am
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10691 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:42 am to
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If you watched many GT games over the years the GTs defense was a bigger problem than there offense. GT played many games that the defense lost the game for them!


38-3 in 2008 was not one of those games. They were ranked 14th because they had a pretty decent defense to go with that offense.
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 11:43 am
Posted by GSUsTALON
Lakeland, Fll & Saint Simons Is, Ga
Member since Nov 2012
250 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:50 am to
ooTG "38-3 in 2008 was not one of those games. They were ranked 14th because they had a pretty decent defense to go with that offense."

I except that and a good game to point out. You watched many more GT games than I did. Are you saying that their weren't a lot of games in the past were the defense had trouble and lost the game for GT?
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