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re: Kendall Briles: Guess UT wants to have a 21st century offense

Posted on 12/7/18 at 11:11 pm to
Posted by SofaKingTrill
Member since Mar 2008
8039 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 11:11 pm to
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Hey, I thought the O sucked this year too but I saw the poorest OL performance I have seen in the last 18 yrs at LSU, the least effective RB's, and a total overhaul in the WR corps. E had more to work with two yrs ago when he was interim.


And he still didnt score a fricking point against Alabama that season either.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
17500 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 11:16 pm to
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You seriously think we were even looking?




No. That's the problem.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17409 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 11:20 pm to
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We score 72 points and you LOOSERS want to fire Slinger Incredible

Damn, this hooked a lot of people. Well done.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28909 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 11:29 pm to
This is the difference between LSU and everybody else.

In Pruitt's first year after his OC left, he is looking at guys like Freeze (now HC at Liberty), and Briles. Saban wanted Freeze on staff this year and you can bet he wanted him to eventually become the OC once his guy left.

LSU cuts ties with Canada after one year and goes for the F-ing TE coach that hasn't called his own offense in over 20 years. You can't make this stupid shite up.

This is the difference. UGA went after Kirby Smart, and Tennessee, Pruitt, guys that are younger with great success on one side of the ball. Those guys in turn look for actually decent OCs if shite doesn't work out.

We pretty much went out and got Les Miles 2.0

ETA: Vol OC actually got hired at WKU, that's on me. Still, the search is bring up names like Freeze, Yurcich, and Briles (oh look, the guys I've said I've wanted for months now).
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 6:08 am
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 11:54 pm to
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Because Orgeron is more insecure than he is smart


This is only true in your head and the heads of other delusional rantards.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 12:20 am to
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We pretty much went out and got Les Miles 2.0


That remains to be seen. Les took home hardware. This regime (O and E) has yet to score a point on Bama let alone get us close to getting hardware.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 12:24 am to
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We score 72 points and you LOOSERS want to fire Slinger Incredible


it’s really the damn terrible defense that’s holding us back.
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 12:31 am
Posted by djkevlar
Pineville, La
Member since Aug 2013
554 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 1:21 am to
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LSU cuts ties with Canada after one year and goes for the F-ing TE coach that hasn't calldd his own offense in over 20 years. You can't make this stupid shite up.


Apparently you don't mind making shite up. Canada left LSU, and was mutual. Canada and his spotty record of moving from school to school trying to land a HC position. Coach did make the mistake of hiring him, but I bet he had a lot of pressure to hire him. Canada's offensive style and methods simply don't work in a conference known for great defenses.

Prior to Ensminger taking over play-calling duties in 2016, LSU's offense had scored only nine touchdowns and was averaging 18 points and 339.5 total yards per game. In eight games under Ensminger that year, LSU improved drastically in every offensive category as the Tigers averaged 32 points and 464.9 total yards per contest during that span. LSU scored 38 or more points five times under Ensminger, including 54 in a win over Texas A&M and 38 against both Arkansas and Ole Miss. The Tigers averaged 7.1 yards per play and converted 46-of-102 third-down opportunities during that eight-game stretch.

So, we rewarded his hard work with a new hire for OC as LSU always jumps too fast, like the leap at Matt Canada who sucks by the way. Canada has jumped from school to school for years and even while at a school for more than a year he jumped position coaching, obviously trying to land a HC gig. If LSU wasn't prepared to make him HC, then he should have never been hired.

Coach E. has been at LSU for 8 years and did very well in the interim 2016 and now this season. He did a great job of mixing the play calling up, making adjustments, and putting the offense in a position to be successful. He will probably never be considered an elite OC. However, with these issues, OL protection and consistency, QB throws, sacks, bad decisions, WR drops, inexperience, RB blocking and mostly no elite RB, are all execution issues and on the players. No one group sucked, but to say it best, it was a "Team effort" that made our offense average and could have been much worse. The flip side is if we can simply execute at a higher level and Coach E. continues to improve, LSU will have one of the best if not the best offense in the country.
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 1:30 am
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 1:25 am to
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lsu2006


I honestly can't figure out how so many people didn't see the sarcasm in your post.

Well done sir, well done.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 1:30 am to
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E had more to work with two yrs ago when he was interim.


Miles recruits, coached up by Miles coaches.

Thank God we got o running the show now.
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:11 am to
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This is only true in your head and the heads of other delusional rantards.
Oh the irony
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47877 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 3:07 am to
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I don’t know if this is sarcasm or not lol.


Your sarcasm detector is broke.
Posted by SofaKingTrill
Member since Mar 2008
8039 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:23 am to
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average and could have been much worse. The flip side is if we can simply execute at a higher level and Coach E. continues to improve, LSU will have one of the best if not the best offense in the country.

Good God you're delusional. The talent at LSU isnt poor. The scheme and coaching is absolutely horrific when played against other teams with top talent. Hell they look bad against teams with less talent most of the time. Ensminger is never going to coach a squad up to improve execution against the Alabama's and Florida's of the world. The offense just wont execute.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:54 am to
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by Melvin
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This is only true in your head and the heads of other delusional rantards.
Oh the irony



When I start making up similar scenarios in my head and posting them here as fact please feel free to call me out.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 6:54 am to
Thank goodness LSU has an aversion to gang rape. Briles, like all of the Baylor coaches and administration, knew of the 31 cases of rape and gang rape and did nothing about it.
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 6:55 am
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5593 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:07 am to
#1-no one here, and i mean no one, truly knows what O or LSU is doing or not doing.

#2-yet this thread, of the entirety of TD assumes the negative. That O and LSU is doing nothing.

#3-is it even possible for LSU to do something and TD not know?? Oh, the horror!!

Point is to wait to complain. If nothing is done, I will bitch with you. But until you have a reason to get on your soap box, there is a world outside of TD....enjoy it!
Posted by SOL
Garland, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2950 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:13 am to
the 2 winnable games were lost because of bad defense.
UF and atm were both very winnable. Our D was not as good as everyone thought. They better bump it up a notch against UCF or we will get embarrassed
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28909 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:33 am to
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Apparently you don't mind making shite up. Canada left LSU, and was mutual. Canada and his spotty record of moving from school to school trying to land a HC position. Coach did make the mistake of hiring him, but I bet he had a lot of pressure to hire him. Canada's offensive style and methods simply don't work in a conference known for great defenses.


We cut ties dude. The mutual agreement was to save face in the media. O and Alleva got their BBQ buddy Enminger like they wanted in the first place.

I will tell you one thing though. I thought Canada was a mistake from the get go. Didn't want him at all, but many of you dumbasses sang his praises weeks before we ended up with him.

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Prior to Ensminger taking over play-calling duties in 2016, LSU's offense had scored only nine touchdowns and was averaging 18 points and 339.5 total yards per game. In eight games under Ensminger that year, LSU improved drastically in every offensive category as the Tigers averaged 32 points and 464.9 total yards per contest during that span. LSU scored 38 or more points five times under Ensminger, including 54 in a win over Texas A&M and 38 against both Arkansas and Ole Miss. The Tigers averaged 7.1 yards per play and converted 46-of-102 third-down opportunities during that eight-game stretch. 


Why don't you first

1. Compare the scoring and total defenses of those teams we lit up

2. Realize we had two first round RBs, and a 3rd drafted RB, playing against the worst run defenses in the country?

Omitting shitty arse group of 5 and FCS teams we played that year, LSU faced in rush defense;

80th TAMU
94th Arkansas
112th Mizzu
120th Ole Miss

4 of those 8 games he play called in we faced some of the worst rush defenses in the country. Fournette ran for 284 on 16 carries vs Ole Miss, Guice ran for 252 vs Arky, and 285 on TAMU. Fournette added 98 yards and 3 TDs vs Arky. Guice and Williams ran for 290 and 6 TDs vs Mizzu.

Basically we lined up and handed the ball off to our ridiculous RBs vs horrid defenses.

LSU was down right awful in every game vs a good defense except Louisville, who I think was just overrated (see their prior two games vs Houston and Kentucky).
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Coach E. has been at LSU for 8 years and did very well in the interim 2016 and now this season. He did a great job of mixing the play calling up, making adjustments, and putting the offense in a position to be successful. He will probably never be considered an elite OC. However, with these issues, OL protection and consistency, QB throws, sacks, bad decisions, WR drops, inexperience, RB blocking and mostly no elite RB, are all execution issues and on the players. No one group sucked, but to say it best, it was a "Team effort" that made our offense average and could have been much worse. The flip side is if we can simply execute at a higher level and Coach E. continues to improve, LSU will have one of the best if not the best offense in the country.



You can't be serious with this stupid shite. LSU's offense was awful this year and never made adjustments. Let me just tell you what Kendal Briles did after he lost his first and second string QBs with three more games to go in 2015.

When Stidham went down at half vs Oklahoma St he changed his offense to accommodate. In the first half they ran 21 pass plays and 37 run plays. In the second half they ran 10 pass plays and 36 run plays. They posted 24 points in the first half and 21 points in the second. They ran a ridiculous 104 plays and posted 700 yards.

After seeing how extremely awful his 3rd string QB was when he played in the next game, they doubled down even more on running. After averaging 49.3 rushes per game in the first 10 games with pass first QBs (that includes the game where they ran it 73 times because their QB got hurt), they averaged an insane 73.6 rushes per game over the last 3 games.

In that next game vs TCU, they could do nothing but run that ball, and they ran for 273, on albeit 66 plays. The next game with more improvement, they added a 4th player to take snaps behind center (a WR) and ran for 395 yards on 66 attempts.

With the time to prepare for the bowl game, they ran now with FIVE different "QBs" behind center. They were without their 2 starting passing QBs, their all time leader in TD receptions and statistical giant WR, and their multi year 1250+ yard leading rusher. They broke Baylor and bowl records by rushing for 358 in the first half. They finished off rushing for 645 yards and 7 TDs. The prior backup RB ran for 300 yards and 3 TDs. The 3rd string RB ran for 160, the 4th string RB ran for 100, the WR ran for 60, and the 3rd string QB ran for 30.

THAT is making adjustments. All we did was continue to run long developing pass plays when we knew we had a poor OL. You know what, let me stop, they did do one adjustment. They ran Kirklin one time under center. He fumbled, and they didn't give him another shot. Kirklin played QB in high school and is a pure athlete. Getting him involved should have been more of a priority. If a guy makes a mistake, we immediately go away from him. That was the MO of Miles and now Ed/E.

I'm so tired of the lack of innovation on offense. The lack of any kind of imagination. It's pathetic.
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 7:41 am
Posted by LSUInTheBR
Member since Oct 2017
789 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:50 am to
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Apparently you don't mind making shite up.


Ohhhh the irony. Literally everything you posted after that was a lie.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4532 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:43 am to
No idea if LSU will ever accept anyone associated with the Baylor program and the rampant sexual assault and rape allegations. I do not know,why LSU would even consider hiring any of them.
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