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re: Justice Hill to the Portal

Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:24 am to
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8677 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:24 am to
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We have to upgrade this roster and it starts with the cleanse of guys that cant play on this level.

Sounds good in theory, but can McMahon bring in anyone good enough to replace them?
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20461 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:38 am to
Justice Hill couldn’t cut it at Arkansas. It sure why McMahon brought him wit my him. He’s a headcase and thinks way to much of his game.
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1442 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:00 am to
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I hope he SMACKS LSU when he coaches against them.


You're way too invested.
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1442 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:02 am to
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Its amazing how many folks on here have crushes on Wade


Never seen anything like it.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48969 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:11 am to
No player that can play at LSU will go to McNeese. Wade might get Bench warmer but not a legit player
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30244 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:16 am to
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I’m not thinking of anyone particular. I see Wade working players that are D1 quality and have proven their worth in a mid-major like Murray St who happens to be in La.

Are you mad because Will Wade is gonna wreck Matt McMahon with his own players? Are you a McMahon Fan Boy?
So angry for no reason.

Daddy Dale cheated his arse off. Fact

Will Wade > than Trent, Johnny and I believe eventually Brady.

I hope he SMACKS LSU when he coaches against them.


Bruh you can believe that LSU made a big mistake in firing Wade (I do) without going full retard like you did here.

I think Wade is a good coach who I wish was still LSU's coach and I think McMahon is not a good coach based off of what we've seen but none of that justifies hoping McNeese beats LSU in their next game.

Come on man!!!
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:18 am to
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McNeese beats LSU in their next game.


Wade will never coach a game against LSU. Woodward and McMahon will never schedule it and if it is scheduled they’ll buy it out quickly
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30244 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:19 am to
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No player that can play at LSU will go to McNeese. Wade might get Bench warmer but not a legit player


So we are clear. The narrative on Wade on this board even before his "issue" was that he wasn't a good X and O coach but he could get great players to play for him and cover that up a bit.

Now you are telling me that he won't get great players at McNeese.....so when he gets McNeese to the tournament will the narrative change to being Wade IS a great coach from an X and O standpoint? I just want to understand where we are going, because he will get McNeese to a national post season tournament eventually.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30244 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:19 am to
For sure.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14208 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:20 am to
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I can’t believe true LSU fans would actually pull for a former coach over LSU.



"Tough Love". Sometimes, hard times are best for loved ones.

The best thing for LSU football was when Wisconsin beat us. It forced a decision that needed to be made.
Three years and another National Championship, Burrow, Chase, Jefferson, Marshall. If Miles had stayed, none of those four would have been Tigers.
Posted by Frogman93
Member since Jul 2021
1589 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:22 am to
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I find it interesting how people will say “you’re not an LSU fan” by defending coaches above the program.

So you are admitting you are not in fact a fan of the program or the school? Just the coaches. Got it. So no real loyalty to anyone then? I mean coaches come and go all the time. They all do stupid things. Best to not get too attached. People LOVED Les. Turns out he was a total scum bag. Wonder if WW gets caught up in a scandal you’ll still love him?
Oh wait….
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14208 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:25 am to
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No player that can play at LSU will go to McNeese.


Joe Dumars, Karl Malone, Robert Parish couldn't play for LSU?
Weird man.
Posted by Frogman93
Member since Jul 2021
1589 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:27 am to
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Tough Love". Sometimes, hard times are best for loved ones

No matter how you slice it, losing a game is not good for a program. Losing to a bottom feeder especially isn’t good for a program. Firing Les was necessary. But saying losing to Wisconsin was ultimately good for LSU is a bit silly. Also do you think WW beating LSU will really do any good for the program? Any good at all? Will it Magically solve all our problems? Come on man
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14208 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:28 am to
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Wade will never coach a game against LSU.


Never? Will LSU never reach the tournament or McNeese?

I suspect McNeese will most likely reach the tourney, with their present coaches.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34225 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:44 am to
First and foremost, I will never pull for McNeese to beat LSU (and this is just a theoretical argument because I don't think they ever actually play while Wade is the HC there).

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But saying losing to Wisconsin was ultimately good for LSU is a bit silly.


For that particular season? Yes. For the overall state of the program? Probably not. Les was carried off the field in his "final game at LSU" at the end of the 2015 season...only to remain the coach. After coming as close to being fired as one could come without being fired, most, including the administration, thought Les would change his approach that was annually leading LSU to fall short of championship level goals. The Wisconsin game confirmed he had no real intention of doing so and set the wheels in motion for a coaching change. That expedited the process of doing the inevitable.

Would Wade beating LSU with a McNeese team be "good" for the program? In the the short term, no. Not at all. But it would be further evidence the program is not going in the right direction under the current regime, thus making a change inevitable. A loss to the former HC with what should be a far inferior team would expedite the inevitable.
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2009
4022 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:48 am to
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when he gets McNeese to the tournament


Hilarious
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:01 am to
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Joe Dumars, Karl Malone, Robert Parish couldn't play for LSU? Weird man.


If you’re going to make a list of McNeese players at least get it right.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34225 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:15 am to
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Hilarious


Is it that far-fetched? Take a look at Northwestern St. They won 9 games last season. This year, with a first year and first time HC they won 22 games (including a win @ TCU), finished second in the league, and played in the conf tournament championship game (losing by 4 to the #1 seed). It doesn't take long today to completely turn around a program (which is why McMahon falling flat on his face this year is even more troubling).

Assuming he can coach this season, Wade is going to bring in some guys. It's not going to be close to the same talent level he brought in at LSU, but he will get some guys who can play. People forget that he really only coached one season at LSU in the era of the freedom of transfer rules. In that one year he brought in a largely unheralded 6th man transfer from Cincinnati (Tari Eason) and turned him into a first team ALL SEC player and 1st round draft pick. Hell get some impact players at McNeese...quickly.

Now, the nature of the Southland conf. is that no matter what you do in the regular season you have to win the tournament to reach the NCAAT. Many great regular season teams fall victim to that format. So to say it is a lock he makes the NCAAT quickly is probably a stretch.

People also forget that this isn't Wade's first rodeo as HC of a one-bid league mid-major. He was at Chattanooga for two years before going to VCU. He inherited a program that had not had a winning season in 4 years. In year one he led that program to a second place conf. finish that he repeated in year two before leaving for VCU. And that was BEFORE the current transfer rules were in place (unless, I guess, you think those big money Chattanooga donors were buying McDonald's AAs)

You can hate Will Wade. You can think some on this board vastly overrate him (I do). But the fact of the matter is he has won everywhere he has coached. So to think he's not going to be able to do so even at a lowly program such as McNeese is counter to all past history of his coaching career to date
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2009
4022 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:18 am to
For McNeese to make the NCAA tournament, they'll have to win their conference tournament. Since 1981, McNeese has done that twice (most recently in 2002).

Also pretty sure Will Wade has never won a conference tournament.

To say he'll bring them to the NCAA tournament is the definition of a long shot.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26370 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:27 am to
Is Justice Hill going to have to go down to a Div 2 school since he already transferred once to us and he's going into his last year of eligibility?

ETA: Nevermind, realized he would be a grad transfer.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 10:44 am
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