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re: Just how much of a disaster was hiring Woodward

Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73602 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:43 pm to
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Dude you guys are really making Woodward out to be WAY better than he was

No, I just think people forget how truly horrible Alleva was
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14290 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:45 pm to
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He totally blew the big two sports hires


I hate how people act like hiring Brian Kelly didn’t kind of make a lot of sense at the time

Yea, it ended up being a total disaster. But when he was hired, it made a lot of sense to kick the tires
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73602 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:49 pm to
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Yea, it ended up being a total disaster. But when he was hired, it made a lot of sense to kick the tires

I think people have tried to forget who were the targets by the fanbase when that hire was made. Lincoln Riley and Billy Napier were the favorites, and Riley was even more expensive than Kelly. No one would have been cool with paying Oregon's buyout and hiring an assistant coach with no HC experience but people love to point out Dan Lanning being hired the same year. It's like people don't think that to fire a coach and hire a new one, the boosters ponying up the money have to be behind that. Would he have had the financial support to fire Oregon and hire a guy like Lanning?
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40491 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:16 pm to
Stuck to saints talk doofus.
Posted by GreenieTiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
748 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:34 pm to
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According to what? Because more than Johnson was interviewed?
Because those are the fricking facts.
Posted by Flightnclouds
Member since Sep 2018
1420 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:37 pm to
He only hired Johnson because of the assistant AD and Kim wanted to come here regardless.

Cheese fry Woody will go down as the most incompetent AD in D1 history.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10499 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:56 pm to
People who post this:
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Cheese fry Woody will go down as the most incompetent AD in D1 history.

Love to post things like this:
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He only hired Johnson because of the assistant AD and Kim wanted to come here regardless.

The "he wanted O'Sullivan first!" thing really only lives here, because Kendall posted that he interviewed/was on the short list.

SW forced PM out, something Alleva never would have done.

The Kansas/Self situation and LSU/Wade situation had massive differences, notably that Self had someone between him and the money. Also, I think most of you forget how Alleva handled the situation at first. What everyone thinks Woodward did (cave to the media) is what Alleva actually did.

Football, as others have said, was cratered thanks to Alleva. He got extremely lucky that Bill Busch knew Jim Burrow.

WBB, for as much money as it loses, was an absolute joke under Alleva. I don't care if Kim "wanted to come here." SW got her here.

re: the Kelly hire - he went to South Bend and stole their coach. On paper, it was a great hire. NIL + Kelly immediately losing all desire to coach changed things, yes. But still, to pretend that it was some obviously awful hire on the front end is extremely disengenious.

Same goes for the MM hire. Yeah it failed miserably, but it was a good hire on paper for what the basketball program looked to be at the time.

The AD was in a horrible position when Alleva exited. SW, like others have said, raised a shite ton of money and stabilized the department.

Between F King and Alleva, I don't know if any school in the conference had worse leadership from 2013-2019. Completely destroyed all momentum LSU athletics had coming out of the 00s. Looks like we're finally headed back in the right direction.

Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30123 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:07 am to
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And a 7 year contract for a coach from Murray St? Crazy for a coach from a mid major to get that kinda deal stepping up to the big leagues.


No shite. Wait until you hear about this coach that Florida hired a few years back. They gave him a 6-year deal and he had only been a coach for three years at Univ of San Francisco and didn’t even win a tournament game.

Also a short time ago, Arizona gave some hack a five year deal and he has been a 20-year assistant at some small school in Washington.

Worst of all, UConn hired some cheeseball in 2018 to a 6-year deal worth over 4 mil. a year. Dude had never been to a sweet 16 and barely won over 50% of his conference games at Rhode Island.

What are these schools thinking hiring guys from mid-majors?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21020 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 1:01 am to
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Possibly the best AD LSU ever had.


Has it been that bad?

We gotta do better.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21020 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 1:13 am to
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re: the Kelly hire - he went to South Bend and stole their coach. On paper, it was a great hire. NIL + Kelly immediately losing all desire to coach changed things, yes. But still, to pretend that it was some obviously awful hire on the front end is extremely disengenious.


No it's not.

The motivation for BK to leave ND was to win a natty before his career was over. After '21, how many openings were there that made that possible - maybe three (LSU, UF, USC). We hired last. That means we had all the leverage so there was no reason to give BK a long-term contract.

Beyond that business lunacy, think of all the superior coaches we could've hired had he just done his homework. And to pile on a little, the O and Bo buyouts were just as stoopid.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
11204 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 1:22 am to
frick Woodward
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 1:33 am to
I mean honestly, they were both terrible. Not sure why any of you is arguing. They were both terrible for the university. Woodward destroyed everything he touched other than baseball and it’s not even arguable. Alleva was obviously a clown. But the energy in this thread defending one way or the other is comical.
Posted by Diesel88
Idaho
Member since Oct 2018
892 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:44 am to
BK is unforgivable to me. I hated the hire from day 1, and almost stopped watching LSU football completely by the end of it. Woodward nearly ruined my favorite pastime. As much as I agree Alleva sucked, Woodward can eat a bag of dicks.
Posted by LSUDobber
Hammond, LA
Member since Jun 2004
913 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 5:23 am to
He was great at spending OPM
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24436 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 6:06 am to
The ncaa was toothless at that point as seen by Kansas telling them to suck their dicks.

Fat Scott was a major problem.

His contracts were all terrible and he thought he knew everything.

He signed off on at the least or push for Bo to come back. The guy was at fcs and hadn’t been a DC in the sec in over a decade and he gave him 3MM a year.

Then we have the Wade mess which he chose to help family over the school he was in charge of, then we have how handled the firing it was a mess

Then he goes out gets MM who on paper looks good but the problem is you have to do more than paper if you want LSU to be successful. A sit down interview would tell you MM couldn’t win in the sec and the only thing he provided was being a nice guy that the media wouldn’t pick on.

BK another paper hire, the guy was 60 and had never won a national title, he wasn’t going to turn the corner here and he didn’t fit in. The only good thing he did was stretching the insane buyout instead of it being all due.

He spent an assload on WBB while he torched our revenue producing sports.

Baseball he hired JJ but he wanted and had to be told no on Sully and Pat Casey. Sully might have worked here but 100 year old Casey wouldn’t have

Then we have his NIL disaster that put us behind the 8 ball and we are now recovering. He tried to play NIL with no gray area and it led to us only having Livy and Angel making real money.

Scott was a absolute destructive force.


LSU has a long history of shite ADs so fat Scott sucking isn’t new. Alleva should have never been here after the Duke stuff
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 6:11 am
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26445 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 6:07 am to
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He also hired Jay Johnson who won two baseball national championships for us and Kim Mulkey who won us our first women’s basketball national championship.




This has been debunked time and time again. Skip found him CJJ. Woody just signed the papers. Woody wanted a big name hire and was shot down by Sullivan
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24436 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 6:12 am to
The Sully stuff was shot down by the board, because of the murder thing he was caught up in when sleeping with the boosters wife now his wife.

I think sully runs here to be perfectly honest because UF won’t invest in baseball like us. He probably would win here but thank god people saved us from Scott
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
16173 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 6:23 am to
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He also hired Jay Johnson who won two baseball national championships for us and Kim Mulkey who won us our first women’s basketball national championship. That’s a hell of a run by itself. He’s far from a disaster of an athletic director. You spoiled pussies don’t even know what true losing even feels like, and yet you talk shite about LSU’s players and coaches constantly and excessively.


Say it louder for the people in the back
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24436 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 6:30 am to
Except Jay wasn’t his first or second choice and happened because of an assistant AD and the board telling him no.

Also Kim walked over here because Louisiana is home.

LSU AD legacy isn’t made by woman’s basketball hires. It’s made on football, men’s basketball and baseball. Everyone wants to be good at everything as we should but at the end of the day we could win titles in every other sport but if football men’s basketball and baseball aren’t contributing then it’s a problem.

So at best Fat Scott murdered our top two sports and at least fixed baseball, or at worst he murdered football and basketball and had to be stopped from messing up baseball as well.

End of the day fat liberal Scott is in the shite pile of LSU ADs along with alleva and plenty of others.

Verge is going to end up being a goat based on being good with not being the smartest guy in the room and executing the Kiffin and Wade hires.
Posted by FreeState
Member since Jun 2012
3679 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 6:38 am to
When Scott was hired this board was elated.

When Brian Kelly was hired a lot of you were elated.

When you’re old like me and been around the block a few times, you learn to withhold judgment and see how things play out.

I never was sold on Kelly but was optimistic after his first year. I was concerned that he simply didn’t fit the SEC.

I think Scott mishandled the Wade fiasco in the first place but I, like most, didn’t have all the facts.

So let’s sit back and let everything play out. I’m glad Wade’s back. I’m optimistic about Lane. I’m glad we have Kim. I’m glad we have Jay. I’m happy at my age to be able to get on Tiger Droppings every day and keep up with you youngsters even when you piss me off.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 6:41 am
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