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re: Just how much of a disaster was hiring Woodward

Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:01 pm to
Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
938 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:01 pm to
Thank you for proving your own point. That’s called a self burn.
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
3849 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:04 pm to
He wasn't great, but he's better than his predecessor by a wide margin.....
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73598 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:05 pm to
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Because Woodward fired Wade

Alleva is the one who revised Wade's contract and suspended him during the season, backing him into that contract revision. Alleva was looking for a reason to fire Wade. He just wasn't given the chance to stick around long enough to do it
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Destroyed the football program

He did?
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Invested millions in the women’s basketball program that loses millions

SO you are now mad at Woodward for hiring a coach who produced a national title. This is a weird flex to give Alleva points, but ok
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Woodward gave Brian Kelly 100 million dollars guys come on

My man, the way Alleva handled the end of the 2015 season, firing Miles midseason in 2016, and literally crawling into a corner when his top target had another interest was so fricking sad. At least Woodward had the balls to tell a blue blood program to frick off and stole their coach. Alleva would have also given Oregon a raise and then would have also been scared to fire him
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They both sucked. Give me Alleva over Woodward yes.

you're insane and a victim of recency bias if you really feel this way
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 10:14 pm
Posted by GreenieTiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
748 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:08 pm to
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He also hired Jay Johnson who won two baseball national championships
WRONG - As others here have stated, Stephanie Rempe hired Jay Johnson. Fat Scott wanted Kevin O'Sullivan......
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36265 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:11 pm to
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Because Woodward fired Wade


Do you really think the dumb motherfricker you’re shilling for wouldn’t have fired Wade if he hadn’t been demoted and shown the door? If so, then you are a fricking idiot. If not, then you’re just trying to fluff a weak argument.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36265 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:13 pm to
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It's like people forget it was Alleva that added the provision to Wade's contract that made it a layup for Woodward to fire Wade. Everyone blames Woodward for pulling the trigger, but it was Alleva that gave Woodard the gun and the ammunition to do it. Woodward hatred Wade


And if Alleva was still the AD at that time, WE ALL KNOW he also would have fired Wade. That weak piece of shite wouldn’t have stood up for him
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73598 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:14 pm to
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And if Alleva was still the AD at that time, WE ALL KNOW he also would have fired Wade

1000000%

It's like people forget how he handled the Wade situation is the straw that led his own firing
Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
938 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:15 pm to
I’m not shilling for anybody

But I guess I’m dying on the wrong hill. Maybe there is some recency bias, and also “dying on hill” syndrome. But I really do feel like Woodward left things in worse condition and I guess I’ll die on that hill.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36265 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:17 pm to
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But I really do feel like Woodward left things in worse condition and I guess I’ll die on that hill.


The facts laid out by multiple posters don’t agree with your feelings.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73598 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:18 pm to
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But I guess I’m dying on the wrong hill. Maybe there is some recency bias, and also “dying on hill” syndrome. But I really do feel like Woodward left things in worse condition and I guess I’ll die on that hill.

Joe Alleva didn't hire Les Miles. he then continued to give Les Miles raises to keep him from going places like...Arkansas, He then pussied out firing him at the end of 2015. Then, he fired him mid 2016, only to give up on the coaching search and promote Ed Orgeron. It wasn't some innate feel that led to his ultimate hire actually winning in 2019. It was blind fricking luck after getting completely cucked in the offseason coaching carousel. think about it this way, Ed Oregon is Alleva's entire legacy at LSU as far as coaches that actually worked out even if it was only for 2 years
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 10:20 pm
Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
938 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:19 pm to
I also laid out some facts.

Some that can’t be disagreed with. Wade. 100 million. Extreme losses in women’s basketball. There’s facts on both sides. As much as you don’t want to see it.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73598 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:21 pm to
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100 million. Extreme losses in women’s basketball. There’s facts on both sides. As much as you don’t want to see it.

if you want to go the money argument, Woodward made money for the AD than Alleva did
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29286 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:25 pm to
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But all he did was bring us Wade


A decision he said he regretted.

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football national championship


O gave us the GOAT season but he sucked arse outside of that. He got the 19 team together but outside of that he didn't do much in the way of recruiting.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
33328 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:29 pm to
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He also hired Jay Johnson who won two baseball national championships for us and Kim Mulkey who won us our first women’s basketball national championship.

Johnson was his third option. He was told no by two others before he gave Jay the job. Mulkey was going to come to LSU if you or I were AD
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
33328 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:31 pm to
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pretty much every AD would've handled it the same way Woodward did.

Kansas surely didn't and they won a national championship a few months later
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73598 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:36 pm to
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Kansas surely didn't and they won a national championship a few months later

Kansas isn't LSU and their coach was already a top 5 coach with a national title to his name
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73598 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:37 pm to
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Johnson was his third option.

According to what? Because more than Johnson was interviewed? But you, I guess, want to give Alleva credit for Orgeron? Was that his first choice?
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Lsuray70443
Independence
Member since Dec 2025
841 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:37 pm to
Mulkey wanted to come home so all Woodward could do was try and stop it or accept her.
He offered 4 guys before Jay johnson it took baseball insiders to help us get Jay.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73598 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:38 pm to
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He offered 4 guys before Jay johnson

This number grows with each post
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:39 pm to
Dude you guys are really making Woodward out to be WAY better than he was. He was terrible. Maybe not worse than Alleva but Jesus guys.
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