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re: Just got an email from LSU's new capital campaign for money
Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:19 pm to ibldprplgld
Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:19 pm to ibldprplgld
What a great response. Very well-stated without being petty or over the top! You gave a voice to all of us!
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:39 pm to ibldprplgld
You are certainly entitled to your opinion and choice.
But, to not support the University you claim to so dearly love.... because you have a beef with the athletic department is misguided, in my opinion.
On the contrary... I fully support the Foundation, Alumni Association, the Colleges of Agriculture and Business from which I graduated and the School where I was awarded some scholarship money.
These programs gave me the basis for a very long and successful career in the Oil and Gas industry. I feel endebited to "pay something back".
I enjoy LSU Sports... but LSU sports is not LSU to me.
Like I said... on this page your opinion and approach is far more popular... but your approach Hurst, not helps LSU the University.... which is where the Capital Campagine is focused.
As an Alumn... I believe you should want The University to be as strong as possible, now and into the future. The choice is in your hands.
But, to not support the University you claim to so dearly love.... because you have a beef with the athletic department is misguided, in my opinion.
On the contrary... I fully support the Foundation, Alumni Association, the Colleges of Agriculture and Business from which I graduated and the School where I was awarded some scholarship money.
These programs gave me the basis for a very long and successful career in the Oil and Gas industry. I feel endebited to "pay something back".
I enjoy LSU Sports... but LSU sports is not LSU to me.
Like I said... on this page your opinion and approach is far more popular... but your approach Hurst, not helps LSU the University.... which is where the Capital Campagine is focused.
As an Alumn... I believe you should want The University to be as strong as possible, now and into the future. The choice is in your hands.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:42 pm to GeorgeReymond
I like it...well written, but some examples other than the Wade thing would have been nice. They have got to see we're not just pissed bc of our basketball coach.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 1:32 pm to tonydtigr
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Translation: Everyone that’s unhappy about the administration should take what you get, and don’t say shite because I say so.
You sir, have a very warped perception of what is right and what is wrong.
Retort: Unlike many on this board, I don't advocate the President of the University being removed because he does not fire a guy who is doing a good job or retaining a guy who is doing a good job but acted in an insubordinate manner and has been caught trying to break the rules and is on tape doing attempting it.....if that in your mind implies a warped sense of what is right and what is wrong, I'm glad I don't live your ethically ambiguous life.
I suspect in your mind and worldview LSU starts and stops with he state of the Athletic program and if the President of the University does not contort himself to the whims of the athletics, then he is incompetent and must go....BTW, I'm all for getting rid of Alleva. Objectively F. King Alexander has done quite a good job at LSU managing things in a condition wherein state funding for the state's premier public institution is always being threatened with budget cuts . His world view there is so much more than athletics , unlike yours.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 1:57 pm to LSU91MBA
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But, to not support the University you claim to so dearly love.... because you have a beef with the athletic department is misguided, in my opinion.
Do you not pay attention? The whole school is headed into the shitter, athletics is merely the outward illustration on how bad it is.
I won’t give again to academics or athletics until they get their act together. Go take a look at Alabama and see what a successful sports program can do for the university as a whole.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 2:06 pm to ibldprplgld
My reply to the email:
Joe Alleva has breached the terms of his contract with LSU. Alleva CAN BE TERMINATED - For CAUSE, and LSU should protect its interest accordingly.
Until LSU demonstrates it will responsibly manage its employees, I cannot in good faith donate any more money because I lack confidence LSU will manage the donation any better than it does its personnel.
In case you are in doubt...
A few important terms of ALLEVA'S contract with LSU below:
2. Duties and Responsibilities:
A. Administering, managing, and leading the Department of Athletics at LSU A&M (the Department) in such a manner as to reflect positively on LSU at ALL TIMES.
B. Administering, managing, and leading the Department in such a manner as to allow its athletic teams to effectively compete in National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) play.
9. Termination: This Agreement may be terminated by the parties as follows:
A. Termination by LSU for Cause.
2. Commission of Material Violation
(i) the violation occurs or continues to occur after ALLEVA knew or should have known that it was about to occur or was occurring
4. Knowingly engaging in conduct which:
(i) displays a continual, serious disrespect or disregard for the mission of LSU
(ii) brings ALLEVA or LSU into public disrepute, or negatively impacts the reputation of LSU
Joe Alleva has breached the terms of his contract with LSU. Alleva CAN BE TERMINATED - For CAUSE, and LSU should protect its interest accordingly.
Until LSU demonstrates it will responsibly manage its employees, I cannot in good faith donate any more money because I lack confidence LSU will manage the donation any better than it does its personnel.
In case you are in doubt...
A few important terms of ALLEVA'S contract with LSU below:
2. Duties and Responsibilities:
A. Administering, managing, and leading the Department of Athletics at LSU A&M (the Department) in such a manner as to reflect positively on LSU at ALL TIMES.
B. Administering, managing, and leading the Department in such a manner as to allow its athletic teams to effectively compete in National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) play.
9. Termination: This Agreement may be terminated by the parties as follows:
A. Termination by LSU for Cause.
2. Commission of Material Violation
(i) the violation occurs or continues to occur after ALLEVA knew or should have known that it was about to occur or was occurring
4. Knowingly engaging in conduct which:
(i) displays a continual, serious disrespect or disregard for the mission of LSU
(ii) brings ALLEVA or LSU into public disrepute, or negatively impacts the reputation of LSU
Posted on 3/22/19 at 2:21 pm to KiwiHead
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Objectively F. King Alexander has done quite a good job at LSU managing things in a condition wherein state funding for the state's premier public institution is always being threatened with budget cuts
What a joke......he brings bad press upon the university every spring going to the state legislature acting like a pauper groveling for money, instead of cutting the budget of the university. Also, the “holistic” admissions concept is a pile of trash and is trying to turn the university into a diploma mill.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 2:26 pm to LSU91MBA
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion and choice.
But, to not support the University you claim to so dearly love.... because you have a beef with the athletic department is misguided, in my opinion.
Then, respectfully, you have missed my point. My ire is not limited to just athletics. The Will Wade issue is merely the latest. And lest we not overlook, Joe Alleva is not only Athletic director, but he is also a Vice Chancellor.
Nothing Alexander or Alleva have done instills confidence in me that they are looking out for LSU's best interests: academically, athletically, or otherwise.
quote:
As an Alumn... I believe you should want The University to be as strong as possible, now and into the future. The choice is in your hands.
No doubt, I want LSU to be the best it can. Sometimes short term losses are necessary for long term gains. For LSU to be successful, both in the classroom and on the field, F. King and Alleva must go. If my withholding money helps in any way precipitate that, then it is well served.
My choice is to rip the band-aid off so that LSU can move on without those who will perpetually hinder it.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 2:35 pm to terriblegreen
I know what you meant I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to pile on the administration.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 2:58 pm to ibldprplgld
You should send a copy of your email to the BOS as well. Well done sir.
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This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 3/22/19 at 3:47 pm to TJG210
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he brings bad press upon the university every spring going to the state legislature acting like a pauper groveling for money,
His job is to get money from the state legislature for the university....a public university. You do realize that LSU's funding from the state is less than what comparable state universities get per student than just about every other state in the SEC .....or the South? Less than Ole Miss, less than MSU, Less than Alabama, etc.
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Also, the “holistic” admissions concept is a pile of trash and is trying to turn the university into a diploma mill.
Admittedly I don't know much about this concept so I'll grant you, but I will say this, if you are worried about LSU becoming a diploma mill, I guess it's going back to what it was in the late 1980's , early 1990's.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:15 pm to KiwiHead
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His world view there is so much more than athletics , unlike yours.
Don't be so presumptuous as to know my "worldview". You will, no doubt, prove your ignorance that everyone had up to this point already assumed.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 8:58 pm to ibldprplgld
I changed my graduation date and literally copied and pasted what you wrote in my reply.
Well done young man.
Well done young man.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 8:58 pm to ibldprplgld
I changed my graduation date and literally copied and pasted what you wrote in my reply.
Well done young man.
Well done young man.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 10:50 pm to ibldprplgld
Any Response from LSU yet?
Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:49 pm to DthVllyDud
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Any Response from LSU yet?
Of course not. I'm not holding my breath for one either.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 9:36 am to DthVllyDud
I don't any of us do but you never know.
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