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re: Just Back From Tuscaloosa--Impressions:

Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:30 pm to
Posted by jhhingle
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
3108 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:30 pm to
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the Ac-DC, Lynard Skynard, & Metalica work for me. I could completely get rid of the band as they do nothing but use up good seats anymore.

Pretty sad that is!
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9113 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

the Ac-DC, Lynard Skynard, & Metalica work for me. I could completely get rid of the band as they do nothing but use up good seats anymore.

Pretty sad that is!


As an alum and someone who has been going to Bama games since I was a little kid in the 80s, it is sad. Alabama's band use to be a much more prominent part of the gameday experience back in the 80s, 90s, and even early 2000s. It has never been as good and interactive with the fans as it is at LSU or Florida, but it was still good back in the day. Having said that, the music played in the stadium and the overall presentation has gotten much better believe it or not the last 7 or 8 years. The only things that really annoy me about the stadium experience is hearing the S&C coach ranting like a lunatic and our PA announcer being such a homer with the 1st down calls. I also wish they'd go ahead and hook the pregame show by the band on the stadium sound system because you can't hear the band unless they are directly facing you. I wish the presentation was a little less NFL like but other than those things it's not bad.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5836 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Just Back From Tuscaloosa--Impressions


YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH
Posted by Houston Texas Tiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2004
1414 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 4:18 pm to
I agree with the OP. The strip is really nice, good to see the campus and nearby downtown areas blend together. The buildings aren't architecturally as interesting as LSU but they are spread out and has a good college feel about it. I think LSU's sorority row is nicer than anything on bama's campus.

As for the stadium, visually it is very nice. The bowl effect helps give the feel that it is bigger and more intimidating. The problem is everything else. The manufactured screaming from the strength coach. The lack of band presence and really boring pregame amaze me each time I go. For those who have been to both LSU and Bama for meaningful night games over the years realize there is no comparison as far as atmosphere goes. There is very little band involvement with the student section and most people at bama say their band sucks. Maybe thats why they dont play as often. What you dont get on TV is the lack of noise. There are at times when the stadium looks like it is really loud and the shakers are all going in unison. Then you listen and you can actually hear the sound of the shakers and no yelling. With all that said it is in the top 5 of SEC weekend experiences. Just helps to reconfirm that we have a special and unique experience at LSU that is second to none.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14170 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 4:52 pm to
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I also wish they'd go ahead and hook the pregame show by the band on the stadium sound system because you can't hear the band unless they are directly facing you.


I know that several SEC schools mic their bands, but LSU has never done it.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22079 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 5:05 pm to
Thanks everyone for such a great discussion.

I fully expected two pages of "frick you, why don't you move to Bama, you Gump homer" before the thread got anchored.


Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67079 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 5:10 pm to
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you realize LSU has built a new business college, a new Chemistry building, several residential halls, and is about to start building a state of the art engineering building?


Don't forget renovations to the Student Union and M&DA, completely renovating the Union and Manship Theaters, UREC renovation (completed with another in the works), restoration of the Huey P. Long Field House (in the works), renovations of the French House and Laville dorms, new Emerging Technology Center, new Visual Arts and Technology Building partnered with EA Sports, state of the art 5k Theater (5000 times more resolution than an HD video projector with acoustics that allow it to mimic basically any building or condition)

Nope, LSU is just watching their buildings crumble
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29506 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 5:56 pm to
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Yoga pants. Yoga pants. Yoga pants.


Pics?????
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29217 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 6:06 pm to
I agree that "watching our buildings crumble" is a huge stretch, and it doesn't help that Alabama receives more state funding than us. We're just behind on renovating the campus. we'll be neck and neck with them in five years or so, but there's no denying their facilities are more impressive at the point. It's very frustrating how much money we spent on renovating the union and that was our end result. Meanwhile, bama and auburn spend half the price and their union is much more impressive. Very frustrating.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67079 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 6:18 pm to
Yeah, Louisiana's state Constitution really is prohibitive for cutting spending by making sure that only education and healthcare can be cut. The other fact is that Louisiana has the most 4 year colleges per capita of any state and has one of the fewest 2 year colleges per capita ratios of states. The obvious solution is to convert some of those 4 year colleges to 2 year community colleges and VOTEC schools, but it's a political hand grenade and no one has the balls to jump on. If Louisiana were to go ahead and condense some of these redundant schools (especially the crazy number in north LA like having ULM, Tech, Grambling, and LSU Shreveport), reduce the number of redundant degree programs offered by nearby colleges, and convert some 4 year schools to 2 year technical schools, LA could have more funding available for their flagship.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22079 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 6:28 pm to
I think it is a long way from "not having enough money to fund higher education at previous levels" to actively cutting funding for higher education by 90% over five years. 90%.

There is nothing anyone can tell me that will make me believe it has been nothing but a direct attack on public education.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 6:29 pm to
or amend the constitution so that the two most important items for a state are not gutted in budget restrictions?
Posted by lsufan251875
Member since Jul 2008
3159 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 6:35 pm to
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I think it is a statewide policy in Alabama, because my son was a National Merit Finalist and got full tuition, room & board, and a technology stipend at Auburn. Since LSU doesn't have an Aeronautical program, he never considered going there, so we didn't have an offer to compare, but the deal he has is enough for me to yell "War Eagle" every once in a while.

GEAUX TIGERS


LSU can offer less to in-state NMFs because they know that they will have the top level of TOPS.

I was one in 2004, and LSU gave me room and board, $2000 a year, put me in the Honors College (which meant priority scheduling, a huge perk for freshmen), all on top of the stipend from TOPS.

Had I been a non-resident, yes, I probably would have gotten more, but that is any state university. They all greatly prioritize out-of-staters.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67079 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 6:37 pm to
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or amend the constitution so that the two most important items for a state are not gutted in budget restrictions?


This is the only answer, but no one in Baton Rouge seems to have the political will to try, which is sad. I am really disappointing in Jindal for not pushing this issue and letting his opposition paint him as anti higher-ed. Another thing that contributes to the 90% number is the fact that LSU runs the largest hospital system in the state. So much of that 90% cut to the LSU system is actually being cut from the hospital system, which dwarfs the universities' budgets by a wide margin.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 6:46 pm to
I have seen what the budget cuts have done to LSU, I'm afraid to see what state the hospital system is in if it took 90% of the cuts.Yikes!

LSU has cancelled programs, eliminated various parts of facility services, and faculty and staff have left in large numbers. However, LSU still has a very large administration and they didn't make any cuts in that area.

Jindal's cutting the Stelly tax act which tremendously helped education and LSU grow by leaps and bounds in the 90's, didn't help.

Bama has done a really nice job and sticking to a plan and going the extra mile in building something. LSU seems to half arse just about everything.
Posted by Houston Texas Tiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2004
1414 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 7:25 pm to
I have mentioned this before but Lsu does a horrible job with their alumni fund raising. My wife graduated from the university of Texas and they have student workers who call every 3 months requesting donations. Lsu should do something similar. Even if every alumni donated just $100 a year it could generate a tremendous amount of money. The athletic department does a good job but the academic side should not rely on the $5million donation every year.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:27 pm to
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The athletic department does a good job but the academic side should not rely on the $5million donation every year.


Athletics is locked into a contract with academics where it donates 7 Million/yr plus take over many other expenses that were previously funded by academics. It was done 2 yrs ago when LSU raised tuition 10% and still came up short as a result of budget cuts.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
1908 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

know that several SEC schools mic their bands, but LSU has never done it


Tennessee sure does. My son is in the Auburn band and was at the game Saturday. The loudspeaker for the Tennessee band was right in the ear of the Auburn drum major. Their band director (who was a drum major at Bama and a grad assistant with Tiger Band) had to turn the speaker around so she could hear.

GEAUX TIGERS
Posted by HaloWarriors
Murfreesboro, TN
Member since Feb 2010
3351 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:26 pm to
Those fricking pom poms - frick that. Hope that never becomes a thing at Tiger Stadium. I thought the crowd was pretty subdued. Not really that loud. There were a few Bama fans in our section that would yell LSWho and it sounded like they were chanting LSU. I thought that was hilariously stupid. Campus was ok to me. Frat houses were humongo. Good atmosphere before the game. Everyone was very friendly. Tuscaloosa as a town sucks. We stayed in downtown Birmingham which is actually ok.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10160 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 1:10 am to
I've been to Tuscaloosa a 4-5 times to visit friends, games, and for a college tour and as always, I had a good time but am still glad I chose LSU

1) Their campus is very nice but the red brick/white column thing has been way overdone. Every building looks exactly the same. You can't help but notice the millions apon millions of dollars they've invested to revamp their campus by simply adding red bricks/white columns to the outdated buildings. Landscaping also looks good. If anyone wants to believe LSU has committed the same to update our campus - you are a fool (lack of funding). I walk through our campus every day and many buildings south of the quad and north of Patrick Taylor & BEC need to be torn down/overhauled (e.g. Forestry Building, Electrical Engineering Building, Food Science Building, Human Ecology Building, Dairy Science Building, Doran Hall, Lockett, Middleton, etc). No campus in the SEC can beat our quad/inner campus but we need to expand the beauty farther. Budget cuts have slowed down a lot of LSU construction but new buildings are continuing to open (e.g. Choppin Chemistry Annex, BEC, Animal & Food Science Labatories, Patrick F Taylor Expansion)

2) Alabama Guhs be fine but no finer than LSU guhs

3) Denny Bryant looks damn good. Atmosphere is eh and will prefer our stadium once all our renovations are complete.

4) LSU sorority row > Alabama sorority row

5) LSU fraternity row < Alabama fraternity row (absolutely insane)

6) The strip is awesome, I've seen better but it's nice. Once LSU finishes Nicolson Gateway we will have a similar area. They are also moving the LSU Foundation and other offices to the new development which will open up room for new sorority house by the lakes.

7) Alabama football successes have helped in their recruitment of students across the US. Students want to go to a school that wins championships.

8) Alabama like many colleges play into the US Rankings. I believe they are flawed. Here are a few articles agreeing: Business Insider The Atlantic
I prefer Forbes and their method of college rankings. They rank LSU 25-30 spots above Alabama. At the end of the day, each school is the state flagship university and the quality of education is very similar.

9) The LSU Foundation is increasing their fundraising efforts. LINK

10) LSU isn't trying to increase undergraduate enrollment size but is more focused on making the undergraduate body more diversified and increasing the amount of recruiters across the county. Alabama has 10-15 more recruiters than LSU that are located across the United States. Budget cuts once again plays a huge part in this. LSU is also more worried about increasing the enrollment of graduate students too (research).

11) Going forward I believe LSU's forefront is brighter.
This post was edited on 11/13/13 at 8:03 am
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