re: Juniors leaving early befuddles me

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Spurrier said in a interview not long ago that he used to only encourage guys to go early if they were first or second rounders. Now he says to go if they have a shot at the first five rounds

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With only 7 rounds, a fifth rounder is a virtual lock to make an NFL roster.

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I could care less if they both left.

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how much less?

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the players are not doing it for money.
they are pressured by the hanger-ons who want the money. momma, daddy, aunt, uncle, brother, sister, cousins, neighbors, best friend, second best friend, wife, girlfriend, baby's mommy, 2nd baby's momma, great-uncle, brother-in-law uncle,

should I go on?
it is a greedy gang frick. the hanger-ons have been waiting all their lives for the lottery. they know that this chance will ever happen again. they pressure these young men and the lottery money all disappears down the drain

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Sad but true. This will not change until the players are paid for playing in college.

I don't care if it is just the practice squad at $50K in the pro's. That is a lot of money to a 19 year old kid.

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Keep in mind that for some of these guys even getting signed to an NFL scout team for $50K is more than they'll make anywhere else.

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Yeah, for two years. You know what NFL stands for...

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why do we lose so much more that they do? we seem to be losing guys that are not stars and other schools, like bama, uga, usc, a&m etc don't lose near the talent LSU does.

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UGA did lose as much as we did last season.

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So Minter could have potentially gained around $2.5 million if he had an incredible season, although it is still doubtful he would have been drafted in the first round due to his attribute

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The scout "my good friend" that I spoke with over 15+ years as an NFL scout "his title is Director of College Scouting" and truly knows his stuff, was really clear about Minter. He said no one can fault him for leaving because he was a 2nd round draft pick and 1st & 2nd rd draft picks should leave early in most cases. So he had no issues with him leaving, but Minter was picked in the 2nd round because of production at LSU, not for potential like a lot of 2nd rounders are picked. He stated that "in Minters case" he felt that by staying his senior year he would have put up gaudy numbers again because Minter is an instinctive & SMART football player that is why his numbers were so great and that would not have changed this year. He would have still had gaudy numbers. He stated that without a doubt in his mind "barring injury" he would have been selected in the 1st round, because when you put in back-2-back 130tackle seasons in the SEC you will get drafted in the 1st round.

He also stated, and this is something he truly emphasized, was the biggest difference that maybe some people are just not understanding. The money is a big difference in the 1st round "all though not as much as it used to be" but it is the support and opportunities that the 1st round selection on every team will receive as opposed to other rounds. If the 1st round choice is a bust, and starting at least by midway through the 1st year is what is expected of 1st rounders by scouts & coaches, than there are consequences. Every situation is unique but the scout states when 1st rounders become busts - PEOPLE LOSE JOBS - so the coaches, scouts & management do everything in their power to make sure the 1st round selection is in the best position possible to be successful. They do everything in their power to give the 1st round selection opportunities to succeed that are not always afforded to the rest of the draftees. They are absolutely slated to start right away and if they hold down their position it puts them in a better position for their next contract which can be the difference in tens of millions of dollars. He said it is just the way the NFL works, being a first round selection there are more benefits to it than just money and the biggest benefit is the support you get from management & coaches to not fail because people in the organization are held accountable more if the 1st rd selection fails as opposed to other rounds.

Hopefully that makes sense, it was pretty clear to me when explained as to why he felt Minter "given all the factors" why it would have been better for him to stay this year and get selected in the 1st round. He would have been starting next year in the NFL in his opinion and probably added another $2mil to his 1st contract with the potential of adding tens of millions more in the 2nd contract.

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tell that to Danny Trevathan

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Well you need to read all my posts in the thread that was started a couple of weeks ago. He stated that every situation is unique unto itself and he was talking in generalizations. There are a lot of if's, and's and but's involved. But he stated the biggest threat for Minter not being selected in the 1st round this year would have been injury. And at that point it is clearly in the draft prospects corner to have to weigh that factor into his decision. To him it is a risk but he felt, it was a risk worth taking for Minter. Will we ever find out if his advice would have been right or wrong? Nope we won't and he again did say he did not have any issues with Minter leaving because he was selected in the 2nd round. He just feels Minter would have improved his draft stock and his position to start in the NFL his rookie year if he had come back this year.

I for one, after he explained it to me, can understand what he is saying and how it would have benefited Minter to stay. But it is a moot point so I am not going to sit here and try and explain it any further. If you can't understand what an NFL scout was trying to convey, it is your loss.

It makes no sense to stay in college with the current NFL rookie salary cap. It's not a problem that will only hurt LSU...it will hurt all programs. Except Bama. Somehow they keep guys who are projected as late 1st-2nd round picks and I have no clue how they do it. The money difference between round 2-5 isn't big with the new CBA. No point risking injury or having an even worse season. Freak and Ego will be drafted on potential alone. Education is something they can finish while they're in the pros.

tl;dr it makes perfect sense and this is how college football will be. Any junior with a chance of being drafted is gone now. Sucks but LSU just has to adjust and recruit better and identify players who will leave early.

I agree Les needs to step up his recruiting within the program.

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You frickin serious. He is by far one the top recriuters in the country. Thats the one thing the Miles hater's cant talk about.

It is the new tend in college football, and really I think this will kill the game. It is all about the money, they put these thoughts in there heads and they think they are stars. Many of them will be out of a job AKA brad wing. It is really sad.