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Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:12 pm to TigerLunatik
Not surprising fat boy Woodward is jealous of Ed Orgerons tanned and Jacked phsyique.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:13 pm to baytiger11
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Hugh Freeze
Woodward would never do it, and Sankey wouldn't allow it.
But this is one guy Saban doesn't want to see on the other sideline.
I agree, but if I had a wish list that I think would come to lsu, Kiffin and Freeze are it. Offense wins now, not defense. Can't have an awful defense but 2019 proved if you have an elite offense, you defense doesn't have to be lights out to win.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:17 pm to Zboyt
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Because Les Miles took the job at Kansas. Therefore we didn’t have to buyout the rest of his contract. Kansas did!!
Exactly. LSU was owed a portion back, so instead of going through the difficulties of weekly calculations you come up with a final agreement.
These cats actually think you can just magically make large contracts disappear.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:29 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
We can let Slinger handle it the rest of the year
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:30 pm to Cs
Poor Jordy, he was all in on O and led the charge to give him the job
Please make sure Derek goes as well
Please make sure Derek goes as well
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:32 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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Exactly. LSU was owed a portion back, so instead of going through the difficulties of weekly calculations you come up with a final agreement.
These cats actually think you can just magically make large contracts disappear.
So Les’ buyout, which was a part of his contract, was negotiated down after he was fired.
Got it. Will you stop posting that LSU will owe $30 million of Orgeron is fired on every thread now that you e admitted it’s not going to be the case?
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:34 pm to RB10
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So Les’ buyout, which was a part of his contract, was negotiated down after he was fired.
Got it. Will you stop posting that LSU will owe $30 million of Orgeron is fired on every thread now that you e admitted it’s not going to be the case?
No, LSU was owed money per the contract on the future income i.e. offset. All they did was basically wrap it up.
You're not getting out of the large sums owed, although you can negotiate lump sum payments.
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Got it. Will you stop posting that LSU will owe $30 million of Orgeron is fired on every thread now that you e admitted it’s not going to be the case?
Rough calculations $19-23m depending on when he is fired, but you have all the other assistant coaches as well.
Everyone has basically been paid up.
- Les
- Cameron
- Matt
- Bo
- etc.
Cregg wasn't and now is suing.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:37 pm to RB10
This is how I think it will play out…
If Orgeron plays nice, he may get about $10m and both parties move on with no mud-slinging.
If he doesn’t, the only money he will get will be years down the road after it plays out in the courts and both parties will suffer.
LSU has all the leverage. Because at the end of the day, they can just move on, stop paying him and say “sue me.” And if he’s not 100% clean, which I’m sure he’s not, then he’s in a bad spot. The ball will be in O’s court to sit down and work with LSU on a settlement.
If Orgeron plays nice, he may get about $10m and both parties move on with no mud-slinging.
If he doesn’t, the only money he will get will be years down the road after it plays out in the courts and both parties will suffer.
LSU has all the leverage. Because at the end of the day, they can just move on, stop paying him and say “sue me.” And if he’s not 100% clean, which I’m sure he’s not, then he’s in a bad spot. The ball will be in O’s court to sit down and work with LSU on a settlement.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:39 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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No, LSU was owed money per the contract on the future income i.e. offset. All they did was basically wrap it up.
You're not getting out of the large sums owed, although you can negotiate lump sum payments.
Are you under the impression that no such clause is in Orgeron’s contract? You think he’s going to be allowed to double dip because LSU’s lawyers forgot to add in that money owed lessens when he takes a new position?
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Rough calculations $19-23m depending on when he is fired, but you have all the other assistant coaches as well.
Everyone has basically been paid up.
- Les
- Cameron
- Matt
- Bo
- etc.
No matter how many time you repeat this, it doesn’t make it true.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:40 pm to JPLSU1981
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If Orgeron plays nice, he may get about $10m and both parties move on with no mud-slinging.
If he doesn’t, the only money he will get will be years down the road after it plays out in the courts and both parties will suffer.
LSU has all the leverage. Because at the end of the day, they can just move on, stop paying him and say “sue me.” And if he’s not 100% clean, which I’m sure he’s not, then he’s in a bad spot.
Ponamsky’s alter will be here to say “nuh uh” quickly.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:41 pm to Zboyt
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Because Les Miles took the job at Kansas. Therefore we didn’t have to buyout the rest of his contract. Kansas did!!
WRONG!!! LSU owed Miles $6.5 Million. Les and LSU agreed to a $1.5 Million buyout so Les could pursue other jobs. He then got the Kansas job. So Kansas did not pay his buyout.
LINK
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:42 pm to Cs
I remember Saban preaching about how important the relationship and camaraderie is between a head football coach and the AD.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:42 pm to RB10
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Are you under the impression that no such clause is in Orgeron’s contract? You think he’s going to be allowed to double dip because LSU’s lawyers forgot to add in that money owed lessens when he takes a new position?
What are you talking about? Double dipping?
Les was owed X amount of money, if he found a new job... than any money LSU owed him was subtracted by that amount. Its right in the contract.
quote:
No matter how many time you repeat this, it doesn’t make it true.
The contracts are not secret.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:45 pm to boudinman
He already had the Kansas job. LSU was going to be owed the offset.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2018/11/18/ap-source-les-miles-hired-as-coach-at-kansas/38557495/
Les had to pursue other employment via his contract with LSU to start with. You seem very confused as to how this works.
- Les's contract with LSU dictated that he seek new employment
- Any future salary would be offset by what LSU owed him
- The negotiated a final settlement so that calculations and offset didn't have to occur i.e. severe the contract and relationship
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2018/11/18/ap-source-les-miles-hired-as-coach-at-kansas/38557495/
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so Les could pursue other jobs
Les had to pursue other employment via his contract with LSU to start with. You seem very confused as to how this works.
- Les's contract with LSU dictated that he seek new employment
- Any future salary would be offset by what LSU owed him
- The negotiated a final settlement so that calculations and offset didn't have to occur i.e. severe the contract and relationship
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:45 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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Les was owed X amount of money, if he found a new job... than any money LSU owed him was subtracted by that amount. Its right in the contract.
So LSU won’t pay Orgeron his full amount owed when he finds a new job? Got it.
Thank you for contradicting your own point for what has to be the 10th time in this thread alone.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:49 pm to RB10
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So LSU won’t pay Orgeron his full amount owed when he finds a new job? Got it.
I'm assuming he has an offset in there, the problem is.. he isn't going to be getting a $5m job.
In essence, LSU will be on the hook if Ed can't find a new job making what he is making now or more like the difference.
This isn't complex.
If Ed finds a job for $200,000 for 4 years than that would be taken off the amount owed.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:51 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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This isn't complex.
Apparently it is. You’re the one who kept saying he would get paid the full amount of his contract when he’s fired.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:53 pm to RB10
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Apparently it is. You’re the one who kept saying he would get paid the full amount of his contract when he’s fired.
Realistically he will be, or close to it.... he is owed $19-23m over the next 4 years.
In theory, another school could pay it, but probably unlikely. The school has to assume its on the hook for it all.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:54 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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Realistically he will be, or close to it.... he is owed $19-23m over the next 4 years.
In theory, another school could pay it, but probably unlikely.
“Could be”
Earlier it was “will be”.
At least now you realize we all know you’re full of shite Derek.
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