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re: Jordan Jefferson is clearly the best QB on the roster now
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:40 pm to NIH
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:40 pm to NIH
No, rushing yards used to be just designed runs which is what it should be. Sack yardage used to be subtracted from passing yards which is appropriate. When a QB is passing, that is when he is sacked....hardly on a designed running play.
Jefferson has had many 8 to 15 yard runs, not just the long one at Georgia.
Jefferson has had many 8 to 15 yard runs, not just the long one at Georgia.
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:41 pm to Tomm
that's the only figure available, you asked for it and you got it.
JJ is not a duel threat, never has been and never will be.
JJ is not a duel threat, never has been and never will be.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:42 pm to Tomm
quote:You're not logical. The JJ apologists say he's young and should be given more chances. Yet JL was young when he had his problems last season too.
I don't know if the Jarrett Lee cultists root for LSU and are just clueless or really aren't even LSU fans. But the bottom line is Lee had his chance, and he proven not up to SEC starting QB standards. All the revisionist history or garbage about Jefferson being responsible for his own sacks is delusionary.
So how/why has JJ earned the right to more chances and JL has not?
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:43 pm to NIH
lsu has JJ at 225 yards gaines w/o sacks.
MIKE VICK PART II
MIKE VICK PART II
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:46 pm to mrbayoublu
Hey tlsugger face! He's getting so lit up they decided to give him extra yds per carry to be nice. What an idiot. Know you roll and shut your mouth. Go back and watch the games. One fumble when he caught a pass over the middle hit by 4 defenders at the same time. What you probably grew up playing football on your nintendo not in real life. You know nothing about football or sports if you don't see his superb athletic ability that he has performed hince his stats!!!!!!
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:47 pm to NIH
Actually, I have found the REAL rushing number...indirectly. Jefferson has 18 sacks for 118 yards, so adding those yards back in to this TRUE rushing numbers and subtracting the 18 "attempts", Jefferson's REAL rushing numbers are:
41 carries for 214 yards...almost 5 yards per carry!
41 carries for 214 yards...almost 5 yards per carry!
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:49 pm to Tomm
Dude, please don't use that logic with Miles when you go mow his lawn.
18 sacks. Holding the ball for ever. And you won't to talk about his "rushing" prowess.
18 sacks. Holding the ball for ever. And you won't to talk about his "rushing" prowess.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:50 pm to USMCTiger03
Jordan Jefferson has better stats and has a better starting QB record at LSU. He is 6-2 as the starting SEC QB with most of his starts behind this poor OL (as confirmed by the poor running game).
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:50 pm to Tomm
link?
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:51 pm to Tomm
quote:Try to post less
Tomm
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:52 pm to grif82
Wrong again. Most of the time Jefferson gets sacked there is a matador approach from the OL. Ciron Black has a great matador ole in the Florida game and wasn't the only one. Oh, and BTW, no mention is made of the times that Jefferson SHOULD have been sacked but his mobility saved him and saved a sack. Even on the long GA run, he was rushed and got away from a guy in the backfield...sack saved and a 26 yard run to boot.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:52 pm to NIH
Jefferson
6 Rushes 30 Yards Florida
10 rushes 54 Yards Georgia
7 Rushes 34 Yards ULL
5 Rushes 22 Yards Vandy
7 Rushes 50 Yards Washington
Mississippi State Play by Play was not available
6 Rushes 30 Yards Florida
10 rushes 54 Yards Georgia
7 Rushes 34 Yards ULL
5 Rushes 22 Yards Vandy
7 Rushes 50 Yards Washington
Mississippi State Play by Play was not available
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:54 pm to mrbayoublu
I said he was much more mobile than Lee and rushing yardage is ONE factor only. Avoiding sacks is another which he also has done. But Jefferson is averaging 5 yards per carry on TRUE rushing attempts...not bad. Scott isn't averaging that and neither is Williams.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:55 pm to Tomm
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Avoiding sacks is another which he also has done.
So 27 sacks in 9 games is avoiding them?
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:55 pm to Tomm
quote:
Jefferson clearly has SEC potential and has proven it. Lee has proven the opposite.
Neither of these statments are true, yet.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:56 pm to NIH
The stats were posted earlier on this forum. They had Jefferson with better QB rating...better TD to INT ratio obviously...better completion percentage by several % points....etc. I do believe Lee led in INTs for TDs. 
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:56 pm to Tomm
quote:
But Jefferson is averaging 5 yards per carry on TRUE rushing attempts...not bad.
5ypc isn't that impressive when you're running the bll 4-7 times a game.
I love how you just gloss over the sacks too, 18 sacks in 6 games. that's abysmal and as bad as the o-line JJ takes a huge chunk of the blame.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:58 pm to Gummy Bears
Thanks I finally figured it out the indirect way. He had 118 lost yards in sacks on 18 sacks and adjusting the NCAA "rushing" numbers, Jefferson has 41 attempts for 214 yards which looks very similar to what you had without the MSU stats included.Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:58 pm to Tomm
quote:
The stats were posted earlier on this forum. They had Jefferson with better QB rating...better TD to INT ratio obviously...better completion percentage by several % points....etc. I do believe Lee led in INTs for TDs.
he also led by a large margin in yards, and that's with one or two less starts.
Posted on 10/11/09 at 10:00 pm to Gummy Bears
Absolutely, it could have been much more. Apparently, the OL thinks that blocking is against the rules. Many sacks would have been made if he hadn't avoided the rush...the prime example being the 26 yard run in the GA game where he almost got tackled by yet another unblocked guy behind the LOS.
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