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re: John Emery Returning to LSU (Per Shea Dixon)

Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38671 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:56 pm to
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Not eligibility wise. He has two years left.


I don't think so. He didn't get a redshirt for 2021.
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:56 pm to
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The Tudor rose symbolized the union by representing the red rose of the Lancastrians superimposed upon the white rose of the Yorkists.
Gotta rank those Roses right up there with the Raider's emblem for inspiring fear in opponents, eh?

"Cheese it, baws! Here comes that army with the pink rose on their flag!"
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21900 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:01 pm to
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Is he really or is he just potentially better than the rest of a group of average RBs?

Nobody knows that with any player.

From what I've seen, ball security is the big issue that has kept him from locking the starting job up. Josh Williams is nice, but Emery is bigger, faster, more explosive. I think he could be a 1k rusher who catches as well as anyone in that group.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:01 pm to
I think he has the tools to be a high end RB. He's short, stout, and powerful. He has a 2nd gear as a homerun threat too. He definitely could be on the cusp of an elite RB if he wasn't injury prone. He has all the physical tools.

Emery has the physical tools too but he never really has it mentally and I think a big part of this is his attitude/work ethic.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 1:03 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38671 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:18 pm to
The list of LSU players with a championship ring(from 2019) who would still be eligible in 2023:

John Emery
Josh Williams
Kardell Thomas
Charles Turner
Jack Mashburn


Transferred out:
Desmond Little
Raydarious Jones
Cameron Wire


Entered draft:
Jay Ward
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:20 pm to
Ned Stark could have changed everything. Sigh...
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32083 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:23 pm to
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He didn't get a redshirt for 2021.


You don’t “get” a redshirt. That’s not how it works, unless you played more than you were allowed and lodged some appeal.

You get 5 to play 4, plus he got a Covid year.

I’m sure you’ve heard some urban legend about how you can’t get a redshirt while you are ineligible. It’s totally false.

And you can’t base eligibility on the LSU roster. That thing is horribly inaccurate. Emory was listed as a senior this year.
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:31 pm to
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Emery is a senior.
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Not eligibility wise. He has two years left.
That's correct. I believe T Harris is the only Tiger on this Season's Roster who is approaching 60.
I pick at him but only because even without PT he's a proven Tiger.
TYFYS Todd Harris!
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:33 pm to
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The list of LSU players with a championship ring(from 2019) who would still be eligible in 2023....
Cool little tidbit.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 1:35 pm
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9917 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:50 pm to
For the sake of argument lets say that we only have average running backs. I don't see the issue since we have depth at the position and we have elite players at every other skill position. The game has changed in such a way that there is no longer a need for elite running backs.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21900 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:43 pm to
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For the sake of argument lets say that we only have average running backs. I don't see the issue since we have depth at the position and we have elite players at every other skill position. The game has changed in such a way that there is no longer a need for elite running backs.

yes and no...

Sure, the point of emphasis on offense has converted to the passing game. Trickle-down from the NFL, a good QB can last 15+ years, a dominant RB is going to run out of steam in less than a decade. Makes more sense continuity-wise to build around the QB.
And in that model, if you expect your RB to make 3-4 yds on a rush, provide some personal pass protection, and also catch some passes (at the very least as an outlet or screen, ideally some WR-type routes when split wide), then you're looking at a different physique than your "normal" 20+ carries a game RB. McCaffery and Kamara become the ideal, guys like Fournette are outdated.

But that's the pro model. In college, your RB is going to be 17-21, even Emery will still be in his prime next season. He will be 23, a few years before he starts to break down. You can find RBs easier than QBs, so you can build a good offense around RBs a lot easier than depending on great QBs to come in. And a good RB will force the defense to adjust, which eases the load on the QB.
*A&M beat LSU, a team in the Top 10, by leaning on Achane, and letting their true freshman QB throw play-action. They lost a bunch of games to lesser teams without Achane, because that QB wasn't ready to go full-speed and carry the entire offense.

Posted by LuckyTiger57
Member since Dec 2015
1446 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 5:21 pm to
This is good news imo. If he can make his grades, and have a good year of production, he increases his chances to get drafted higher and be a huge asset to the team. When Emery is on his A Game, he is a difference maker.
Posted by K2LAW
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jun 2007
1722 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:18 pm to
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quote:He probably missed the deadline and will blame it on his tudors. Not sure what an English royal family has to do with anything but you never know


You beat me to it
Posted by roach3
Just moved to LA TOUR!!!
Member since Dec 2009
2825 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 9:10 pm to
Man I'm excited for Emery, he has had his own share of self inflicted wounds and bad luck. I hope he's crushes it next year and gets drafted 2nd round or higher. Would love to see him succeed, so much potential
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 9:27 pm to
Imagine how much better it would be if you had an elite RB complimenting JD's run ability. The offense would unstoppable from that point alone because they can't key in on 1 or the other and that just makes the pass game that much more open too. They absolutely should go all in on a RB in the portal if an elite one jumps in by spring. A 1 year rental with JD is worth it. Also, the run game becomes more exposed if JD goes down. They would not have the avg they had this year if it wasn't for JD's run ability even backing a defense off if you can throw more. It's much easier to stop a run game if you don't have to key in on zone reads.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 9:29 pm
Posted by Sevensblue
Las Vegas
Member since Apr 2022
1750 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:43 pm to
We got the best running back in the game and his name is Daniels! I kid I kid
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9917 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:05 am to
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*A&M beat LSU, a team in the Top 10, by leaning on Achane, and letting their true freshman QB throw play-action.


You literally chose a losing team to make your argument about leaning on the running back. That is not the model of success. The running backs we do have are very complimentary to our offense but not exactly elite. And that is okay. You know what also helps make up the difference for not having elite running backs? Having an elite offensive line. I would say next season the offensive line will be a strength of this team and with the complimentary stable of backs we will be just fine without that elite running back.
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