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re: Joel Klatt : "Freeman took the job Kelly ran from and elevated it past where he had it"

Posted on 1/5/25 at 11:09 am to
Posted by CleanSlate
Member since Nov 2020
2229 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 11:09 am to
Kelly made the 4 team playoff and played for a national championship. Freeman has made the semifinals. So far freeman hasn’t done anything Kelly didn’t do.
Posted by KevinD
Member since Dec 2006
610 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 11:12 am to
Two words….. NORTHERN ILLINOIS!
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
3456 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 11:25 am to
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A lot of people don’t realize but Freeman hasn’t done anything that Kelly hasn’t done.


Brian Kelly has never beaten top 10 teams back to back.

Kelly also hasn't won a major bowl game.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16875 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 11:38 am to
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He hasn't even done that yet, unless I'm missing something. BK took his team to the NC game. ND will have to win one more to get there.

On that same note, Brian Kelly hasn’t done anything more or even equal to what Ed Orgeron has done at LSU. We’ll see if he can eventually get there.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11254 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 11:42 am to
This is simply a case of Brian Kelly not being a likable guy and over the media over-inflating the relevance of the Notre Dame job. Which, makes it even worse as its Joel Klatt being a 12 year old girl. The media did the same thing to Saban when he lied about not leaving the Dolphins.

No one is eviscerating Lane Kiffin for leaving Tenn and Josh Heupel having them in the playoffs this year.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11029 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 11:56 am to
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Brian Kelly has never beaten top 10 teams back to back. Kelly also hasn't won a major bowl game.


Neither had freeman until the 12 team playoff. Some of yall are fricking retarded. We get it, you don’t like Kelly
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
37741 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:00 pm to
Shut up you post the same shut 3 times a day..
Posted by stein69
Metairie
Member since Oct 2007
454 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:07 pm to
Don’t care about the comparisons. Only thing I care about is LSU getting into the playoffs and competing.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49567 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:09 pm to
He might never.

Notre Dame might fall off a cliff next year.

Was just comparing the situations each coach inherited.
Posted by bluewatersailor
Member since Oct 2018
580 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:12 pm to
ND offense got 9 points against Georgia. 3 field goals. One TD was from 7 yards after a Ga. fumble. Other TD was a 98 yard kick return. If Georgia had it's starting QB the game isn't close. And if Ga coaches weren't idiots they win even with a backup. ND had an easy path. Might lose to P State but will get killed in the final game if not. They are a 7-5 SEC team.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26154 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:12 pm to
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Read a Sports Illustrated article about Kellys 12 years at ND. Said overall good job but couldn't get the winning culture. They have that now with Marcus Freeman.

I don't feel that winning vibe, swagger and bring the wood attitude I always had.

Huh? Kelly literally gave ND their winning culture. He took over a non-winning program that had won just 1 bowl game in the previous 15+ years and he had them in the national championship game in his 3rd year on the way to winning the most games in ND history. He gave them a consistent winning culture that they didn't have for nearly 2 decades. Retarded article if it said what you claimed.

Now, I do think Freeman has done a great recovery job this year after losing to Northern Illinois at Notre Dame. Any other year, ND would have been eliminated from contention right there. But because of the 12-team playoff, they are still alive and playing well. I like how they play too and Freeman outcoached Kirby in the playoff game. I think they have a fair chance against Penn St. too. His first two years were disappointments based on the program he was left with that won 54 games in BK's last 5 years there, but he is doing a great job this year.

What Kelly had to do there was way more difficult though. He turned them back into a consistent winner in a time when there was no transfer portal. Freeman took over a winning program averaging 10-11 wins per year and just needed to bring it to the next level in the time of the portal and 12-game playoff. If he can win it all though, then he'll deserve a lot of praise.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 12:15 pm
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16875 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:14 pm to
Saying Georgia has a bunch of idiot coaches is a new one to me... I guess everyone who doesn't coach for LSU has no idea what they are doing.
Posted by SaintLSU
Gretna
Member since Apr 2007
4292 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:36 pm to
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Two words….. NORTHERN ILLINOIS!


Two words …….. Georgia Bulldogs
Posted by LUS Tiger in FL
TrampaBay
Member since Apr 2010
4166 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:38 pm to
We lost to Billy Napier/UF for gods sake.

Yes UF is better than NIU but damn I am sure 99.9% of the Rant thought that wasnt even possible
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32437 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:39 pm to
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Without their starting QB. In the old format, UGA would’ve been left out of the playoffs for that very reason. Stop beating your chest over bullshite


That beat 2 teams lsu lost to
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
3456 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:49 pm to
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Neither had freeman until the 12 team playoff. Some of yall are fricking retarded. We get it, you don’t like Kelly


The original comment was "Freeman hasn’t done anything that Kelly hasn’t done"

That's clearly untrue.
Somehow Freeman doing something in his third year coaching that Kelly hasn't managed to do in his 22 years of coaching FBS football is irrelevant.

Listen to yourself.

"Yeah? Well Freeman didn't do any of that either until he literally JUST did it. Suck on that!"
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13046 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:51 pm to
Mike must’ve been better than Saban since he went 34-6 in his first 3 seasons at LSU and won a national title in year 3 vs Saban in year 4 at LSU.

Coach is a better coach than Saban too since he won one in year 3.

This is stupid. Freeman took over a team ranked #5, #8 and #5 in the 3 years prior to him taking over and after three years has them at #5 again. He has had the likely easiest schedule in ND history this year going into the playoffs and the got a joke of a team in the playoff in Indiana and a depleted UGA team that was beat up and had a month layoff.

Freeman also lost to a MAC team at home during this easiest schedule in ND history.
Posted by NorthSider72
Indy
Member since Dec 2021
787 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:51 pm to
OR, Kelly left ND in a much better place that what he inherited from Coach O.
Posted by SaintLSU
Gretna
Member since Apr 2007
4292 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:52 pm to
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We lost to Billy Napier/UF for gods sake.


Napier’s program is trending up
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
28240 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:53 pm to
Brian Kelly played in the national championship game with them when it was harder to get to it so whatever.
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