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re: Joel Klatt : "Freeman took the job Kelly ran from and elevated it past where he had it"
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:03 pm to LSBoosie
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:03 pm to LSBoosie
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Brian Kelly hasn’t done anything more or even equal to what Ed Orgeron has done at LSU
C'mon man, Orgeron never walked into a HC mess as bad as the one he left LSU in.
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:10 pm to Geauxgurt
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He has had the likely easiest schedule in ND history this year going into the playoffs
You know people can fact check the random bullshite you just make up right?
This year has the 21st ranked SOS in the regular season. In 2018, the year that that Brian Kelly took them to the playoff, they had the 26th ranked SOS in the regular season.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:11 pm to burke985
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Brian Kelly played in the national championship game with them when it was harder to get to it so whatever.
It is currently much harder to make the national championship game than it was in the BCS era. You realize that right?
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:18 pm to Tactical Syrup
Kelly made a BCSCG, Freeman has 1 more game to go to get that far plus the 4 team playoff twice. Freeman has done a great job, better at ND than Kelly at LSU but as of today he has not done anything Kelly did not do at ND
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:24 pm to Tactical Syrup
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:25 pm to Bearded
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This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:26 pm to Datsmoneydude
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Joel Klatt still thinks 2019 Ohio state would beat 2019 lsu
2019 Ohio State couldn’t even get past Clemson, so there’s that…
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:29 pm to Broken Arrow
It's going to be fun in a week if ND wins again.
"ND just had to beat an overrated James Franklin team. They still suck. So what if he won a semifinal?"
"ND just had to beat an overrated James Franklin team. They still suck. So what if he won a semifinal?"
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:29 pm to Tactical Syrup
Out of Kelly’s own mouth, he said LSU would compete for a championship in his 3rd year. To all the Kelly supporters, after 3 years do you understand that LSU has regressed? What indicator gives LSU fans the confidence that Kelly will improve LSU to the level of competing at the championship level. If Kelly doesn’t make the playoffs next year, what will be the excuse?
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:32 pm to Tactical Syrup
Klatt a known SEC hater, if BK was in another conference, you wouldn't hear a peep.
I can't wait for Notre Dame to lose.
I can't wait for Notre Dame to lose.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:34 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
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That's clearly untrue. Somehow Freeman doing something in his third year coaching that Kelly hasn't managed to do in his 22 years of coaching FBS football is irrelevant.
What in the frick are you talking about? When Kelly was at ND, the 12 team playoff didn’t exist. Saying Freeman accomplished something Kelly didn’t at ND is a no shite type of scenario. You cannot say Kelly wouldn’t have done similar things in a 12 team playoff at ND.
The year Kelly left, they would’ve made the 12 team playoff easily. They lost to fricking Oklahoma state in the fiesta bowl.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:40 pm to DCtiger1
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You cannot say Kelly wouldn’t have done similar things in a 12 team playoff at ND.
Yes, we can, because we have 22 years of results from Kelly. He is nothing more than good.
He cannot close, and he cannot win big games. And now he would have to win 4 big games in a row. At ND he would have to win a single one (then, later with the 4-team playoff, only two). He failed that test three times.
He is going to be the "set the table for the next guy" coach. I can see our next coach winning the CFP in year 2 after we finally get rid of this guy. But let's keep playing this game year after year: "He just needs one more year."
Look at the teams in the Semis right now. All of them are very similar: great defenses, okay to good offenses. LSU will at best have an okay defense next year, and that's not the key to winning a playoff. So we will have Nuss off to the draft, and then we will hear the same excuses: "2026 we will have a first time starter at QB, so he needs at least one more year. 2027 is our year."
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:41 pm to jp4lsu
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Ive been thinking about ND and Freeman and wondering would Kelly have them in the playoffs muchless the round of 4?
In Kelly's final season, Notre Dame was ranked #5 in the final regular season College Football Playoff rankings.
At the end of the 2024 regular season, Notre Dame was ranked #5 in the final regular season College Football Playoff rankings.
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Kelly did great work at ND but never able to win the big games and get into title talk with easy schedules.
Kelly was literally in a National Title Game and played in 2 other 4 team College Football Playoffs.
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Im not sure they would be in the playoffs if Kelly had stayed. Hopefully he can do it here. But after 3 yrs ND is in the playoffs and LSU is midpack SEC. He had more roster issues to deal with for sure but his DC hire and OC hires have been poor.
Notre Dame would be in a 12 team playoff had Kelly stayed.
I'll allow the criticism of the poor DC hire, but Denbrock had the #1 offense in all of college football for LSU. Not sure why that would be considered a poor hire. Baker also appears to be a home run hire.
There also is no real middle of the pack in the SEC because there was no real upper echelon in 2024. Essentially, the only thing separating teams 1 through 10 in the SEC in 2024 was scheduling.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:44 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
What did Freeman accomplish before the 12 team playoff?
College football has fundamentally changed in the 3 years since Kelly left ND.
College football has fundamentally changed in the 3 years since Kelly left ND.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:45 pm to Tactical Syrup
The OP makes one stupid arse fricking thread like this every day. He seriously needs to just shut the frick up. He sounds like a broken record.
The guy has issues
The guy has issues
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:49 pm to The Baker
Exactly, it is literally the program he build with his ex coaches.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:49 pm to The Baker
Why is everyone pretending that he didn’t save this program. We were in bad shape when he showed up.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:50 pm to DCtiger1
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College football has fundamentally changed in the 3 years since Kelly left ND.
You are right, and Kelly could have matched that if he didn't choke several winnable games in 2024. But that's what he is, and I don't get why LSU fans wishcast that he is anything but that.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:50 pm to Le Tenia
Because they want to be edge lords and pretend like if they were in charge that LSU would be undefeated national champs every year.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:51 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
You ignored my question. What did Freeman accomplish before the 12 team format?
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