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re: Joe Lunardi’s updated bracketology has LSU as an 8 seed after TENN win

Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by The Truth 34
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:18 pm to
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Wait why do we care about UAB?


if you have to ask...
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:37 pm to
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if you have to ask...


I forget we have kids here who were barely alive for that.
Posted by Fus0623
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 1:16 pm to
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You mean the team that wins the Maui classic every year and then beats up on 32 straight high school teams before choking in the tournament? That's the same you're worried about?



You clearly don’t watch college basketball to say this idiotic comment
Posted by The Truth 34
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 1:28 pm to
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I forget we have kids here who were barely alive for that.



true dat
Posted by tigahlovah
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 1:41 pm to
I stand corrected. I only saw them play the one game at Pepperdine, and Gonzaga looked like ABSOLUTE GARBAGE for 30 minutes. Of course LSU has stunk it up a few times this year also. I would still take our chances against them if we played them like we played the vols.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 1:43 pm to
Just as a measuring barometer, lsu would likely be 15ish point underdogs to the zags
Posted by Tigerpride18
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 1:47 pm to
TigerLunatik

I feel like I have a pretty good idea of your basketball knowledge,im confident you know your shite.

What's so special about Gonzaga? They were on TV alot . I heard the announcers say they have 5 pros.in The games I saw ,they never jumped off the screen at me as a juggernaut. Are they beatable? What's your thoughts on them?
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 1:47 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 1:51 pm to
Honestly, I haven't kept up with much of anyone outside of LSU this year. I just know from watching SportCenter and some of GameDay here and there that this Zags team is supposed to be one the best teams that they've had. That's not something I'm anxious to go up against in the round of 32.
Posted by Tigerpride18
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 1:57 pm to
But regardless we play a 1 seed if we win any 8/9 matchup correct? So are they any tougher then baylor?
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:04 pm to
From what I understand it's Gonzaga and Baylor then everyone else. But, I haven't seen either one of them play this year.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:05 pm to
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But regardless we play a 1 seed if we win any 8/9 matchup correct? So are they any tougher then baylor?


I've seen both Baylor and Gonzaga play, I think Baylor wins 7 of 10.
Posted by TeamLSU
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:16 pm to
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From what I understand it's Gonzaga and Baylor then everyone else. But, I haven't seen either one of them play this year.




I've watched both teams as much as possible this year. LSU can compete with BOTH of those teams. Of course it depends on which LSU team shows up. LSU would present problems for Gonzaga with Darius Days pulling out the big. Also, if you have Hyatt hitting those corner 3's, it becomes a very difficult matchup for Gonzaga.

LSU will go as far as their DEFENSE and REBOUNDING will take them. That's where Gonzaga and Baylor has LSU bent over. IMO
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:20 pm to
If LSU plays like they did vs Ole Miss, Arkansas, State and Tennessee they are a tough out for anyone. The key to me is the defensive rotations and intensity along with having a high number of assists. We are really tough when we share the ball between Smart, Thomas, Days and Watford. It's tough to guard three prolific scorers at once much less 4. As you say, not many teams can match up with Days in college on the outside while also being able to handle him inside as well.
Posted by TommyDaTiger
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:30 pm to
So if we had beat Tech we’re the #4 seed?
Posted by TeamLSU
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:43 pm to
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We are really tough when we share the ball between Smart, Thomas, Days and Watford. It's tough to guard three prolific scorers at once much less 4.


Totally agree Lunatik. I also like Hyatt in the starting 5, because he also forces teams to cover the whole court instead of packing it in and neutralizing the dribble drive by Smart. I think going forward, Hyatt will be the key. We all know what Smart, Days, Thomas and Watford can do, you add a dangerous scorer to that mix and you can make a run.

Plus Hyatt can get you a few rebounds also. As he is not afraid to mix it up for a rebound.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:50 pm to
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If LSU plays like they did vs Ole Miss, Arkansas, State and Tennessee they are a tough out for anyone. The key to me is the defensive rotations and intensity along with having a high number of assists. We are really tough when we share the ball between Smart, Thomas, Days and Watford. It's tough to guard three prolific scorers at once much less 4. As you say, not many teams can match up with Days in college on the outside while also being able to handle him inside as well.


If Watford and Thomas are willing to share the ball just a bit, it could really make this offense almost unarguable. In the first play of the Tenn game Thomas had the ball off a screen. Virtually EVERY player on Tennessee started to run at or at least focus on Thomas expecting him to shoot. That included Pons, who is one of the best defenders in the league. Instead, Thomas gave it up to a WIDE open Days who was cutting to the goal for an easy layup because EVERYONE assumed Thomas would shoot. Later in the game Thomas was out on the wing and it looked like he was setting up a shot. Even Jimmy Dykes said "he's going to shoot it". But instead, he passed it to Days who had popped out for a top of the arc 3...which he made.

Later in the game Watford had the ball on the baseline with two guys watching him. on the opposite side Hyatt was in the corner where he had already buried two three jumping up and down screaming for the ball because he was WIDE open for another one. Watford must have looked at him for 3 seconds before eventually shooting. To his credit, Watford made the shot. But his teammate was WIDE open for a good look and he refused to give it up.

They both could stand to learn from Big Ern McCracken that if you give a little...you get back whole lot more in return.

On defense Thomas has to join the party on the few nights LSU wants to defend. He is habitually late closing out, finding shooters and just flat out leaves guys open on the backside because he leaves them trying to get a steal (though that is on Wade). Watford's give-a-shite level on defense is sporadic, at best.

At least in the last two games Hyatt's ability to hit a few shots has made the offense even better as LSU can truly force defenses to come out and guard all 5 players. If he can keep it up (7-10 ppg), LSU should have enough to beat anyone offensively. They just need two of their best players (Thomas and Watford) to give them just decent effort defensively (and on the glass)
Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 3:00 pm to
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On defense Thomas has to join the party on the few nights LSU wants to defend. He is habitually late closing out, finding shooters and just flat out leaves guys open on the backside because he leaves them trying to get a steal (though that is on Wade). Watford's give-a-shite level on defense is sporadic, at best.

At least in the last two games Hyatt's ability to hit a few shots has made the offense even better as LSU can truly force defenses to come out and guard all 5 players. If he can keep it up (7-10 ppg), LSU should have enough to beat anyone offensively. They just need two of their best players (Thomas and Watford) to give them just decent effort defensively (and on the glass)


Posted by TigerLunatik
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 3:01 pm to
I'm not on the Hyatt train as much as some y'all. I prefer the little things that Wilkinson does that don't show up on the stat sheet. I would love it though if Hyatt proved me wrong about that.
Posted by TeamLSU
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 3:47 pm to
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I prefer the little things that Wilkinson does that don't show up on the stat sheet. I would love it though if Hyatt proved me wrong about that.


Totally understand that, I really like Wilkinson also, but the way this LSU team is built, offense will have to save the day. While the little things that Wilkinson does are admirable, I think it will not be enough to win games in the tourney, whereas, Hyatt can change the game by his potential offensive output and a few rebounds here and there.

But make no mistake about it, Wilkinson brings a unique skillset to the table also. Anytime a team make a run in the tourney, there will be at least ONE game where an unknown comes out of nowhere and take center stage. For LSU, that unknown will have to be Hyatt or Wilkinson.
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 4:01 pm to
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I'm not on the Hyatt train as much as some y'all.

I’ve been in that same boat the past 2 years on him. Was to the point I was hoping he’d transfer out last offseason.

But to his credit, the last couple of games he has been like a completely different player; almost like his confidence switch just finally flipped. But not only is he is scoring, he is giving a lot of hustle plays on defense and in rebounding. If he can stay on that path and keep improving little by little, I’m good with him staying in the role he is in.
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