re: Joe Alleva chimes in on fans and situation

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“If he (Wade) decides to come in and talk and is persuasive, then Joe (Alleva) and the president ... are going to be faced with the decision as to whether to reinstate him," said Tom Skinner, LSU’s general counsel and vice president for legal affairs. "But ... we're not there yet."

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I told you so.

If it is not about winning then every single donor should stop donating and let LSU crash and burn on tax payer dollars. If we are gonna treat this like pop warner and it is just about the kids then f it we do not need all the money!

frick U JOE U COWARD

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This “winning isn’t everything” bullshite needs to go.

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and then the $$$$$$$$$ needs to go also. every donor needs to shut it down now. let it crash then we will see what joe says about winning. when there is zero private money and he has to rely on taxpayer money

hell he should not need any of that either since winning does not matter

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Was he there to support the lacrosse players at Duke when they were falsely accused from the very beginning?

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No. He was not. He bought into the entire ginned up media controversy made up of "Fantastic Lies" from all the usual protest groups, egged on by totally corrupt, up-for-election district attorney Mike Nifong.

He did not help his athletes, nor his coach, at all. Those guys lost probably millions of dollars defending themselves against a total travesty and miscarriage of justice. He cost a damned good coach a job, and reputation.

I think, in this case, Joe is a bit in the middle, but it's his own doing.

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What a coward for not standing up to do you say to them!!

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Has anyone here ever worked in upper management?

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Roger, since you keep bringing up this point, I’d like to give you my experience of standing up to upper management during my employment.

I’m not sure which business sector you work in, but I lived in a big city and worked for a very large and specialized insurance company.

Insurance companies at that time were very male dominated and male chauvinistic:

In a nutshell, I continually challenged upper management on various issues, most relating to them treating me as inferior, due to being female.
I walked out of meetings because I was disrespected.
I didn’t go to some because I knew it would be a waste of time given that the the others present where extremely chauvinistic and condescending.
BUT MY MANAGER BACKED ME UP, because he felt I was justified
He knew my value to the company, he knew I was an employee worth keeping. He also knew that I brought something new and positive to the company.

My issues were not of legal consequence. HOWEVER, I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED BASED UPON MEDIA REPORTS AND UNPROVEN FACTS.
I would’ve been respected enough to be allowed to remain until proven guilty.

My point is that refusing a meeting with superiors, which is based on a point with validity, doesn’t have to be seen as insubordination or reason for suspension, particularly if you have the BACK UP OF YOUR IMMEDIATE SUPERVISOR.

Regardless of what comes out of the situation in the end, Coach Wade has the right to refuse a meeting if he thinks he’s going to step into something without prior knowledge of the topics to be discussed, when he was aware of the extreme media reporting, especially when he initially offered to go, with certain conditions.

Also, I bet he knows what BOS are like. He knows what Alexander is like - they don’t have a clue about Athletics. Athletics is not their priority apparently.
He knows Alleva doesn’t have his back.

I’d walk away too if they didn’t give me a list of questions and my lawyer.

This man is simply too stupid to be the LSU AD. Never should have been hired by any collegiate athletic department after what he did to the Lacrosse team at Duke. Why would it come as a surprise that he throws a coach that is a part of a larger investigation, one which, it is not known for certain what role the coach plays, yet Joe Aleva, along with F. King Alexander created a situation that needn't have occurred, made a decision that needn't be made, and then claims, "It's about the athletes." No, this is about Aleva trying to cover his backside because he thinks there might be a bigger issue with Will Wade than he is aware of and instead of throwing the Lacrosse team under the bus, Aleva is throwing the entire University under the bus so he can have plausible deniability as to what happened. Again: Aleva is too stupid to be the AD at LSU.

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next time your boss tells you to do something and you do it remember this.

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There's a difference between pushing back on your boss and being insubordinate. If you do everything your boss tells you to do because he said so, you aren't his employee, you're his punk bitch yes-man

Alleva being smug as always

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John Feinstein, a Duke graduate and columnist for The Washington Post, had this to say about Alleva in May 2007:

"Everyone at Duke knew that Alleva was a pleasant man whose next original idea would be his first, someone whose main asset when applying for the job was the fact that his racquetball partner was [Duke basketball coach] Mike Krzyzewski."

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I used to listen to Tony Kornheiser’s radio show and John “Junior” Feinstein was a regular on the show. He was always outspoken about his disdain for Alleva. When the news broke of Alleva to LSU, Junior joked that he was glad LSU received his glowing letter of recommendation.

I was anti-Alleva before he came to LSU, but tRant has officially lost it’s damn mind, making him out to be the perpetrator.