re: JJ as QB for LSU

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No, he was saying the only reason people think Mett is better is because he hasn't playe

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No...I said:

"Any time you throw 32 TDs and 4 ints, I would assume you to be talented.

How or whether that translates into BCS/SEC football success, I have no clue."

If you have a want to champion the guy running 3rd string, knock yourself out.

I don't care a flying flip who starts cause they are all LSU QBs.

Having said that, the idea a 3rd string QB is running 3rd string for any reason other than at this time the staff feels him to be the 3rd best option for the success of LSU is laughable. imo

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Look I agree improvement is needed, but you can't discount the effect he has on opp D. Watching Spr Game again, he'll give Ds fits with his scrambling and designed runs.

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I think a qb who was a threat to throw the ball downfield and complete it on a consistent basis would be more of a threat to the defense. With teams not fearing JJ's passing they are going to load the box like they did last year and JJ's running threat will be less of a factor than a qb who could make them pay for loading the box.

one thing different about the QB position that we haven't had the past couple of years is good depth. If Jefferson struggles, then Miles has other options to go to. With the experience of Jefferson and a new coordinator who appears to want to throw middle and deep passes, defenses aren't going to be able to crowd the line. Then you have raw talent in Mett to develop. Lee brings a change of pace and experience also. The QB position looks pretty solid for the first time in years.

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one thing different about the QB position that we haven't had the past couple of years is good depth. If Jefferson struggles, then Miles has other options to go to.

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what do you think our record would have to be before miles would pull jj ?

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maybe this year he will get to a happy place and everything will click

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Miles/Crowton should have had someone on the coaching staff, an assistant QB coach, ex QB, standing on the sidelines, between series, next to Jefferson discussing what they were both seeing on the field and just settling Jefferson. Someone Jefferson could have developed a repoire with. Someone like Rohan Davey. It's fairly common. Instead JJ would come to the sidelines, put on the headphones for a second to talk to Crowton for a brief moment, then generally wonder off by himself. As he was a struggling QB the situation could have been handled better.

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Substitute JJ for Ryan Perriloux, and we've had this argument already.

Guess what? In the end, Miles was wrong. Sticking with RP was a disaster, and ultimately hurt the team, long after he was gone. Which makes me "greatly question your intelligence. Not much question actually, you're just a fricking dumbass."

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You are one of the Chief Dumbasses.

Similar to the way Miles treats Jefferson, Miles never put Ryan Perriloux "above the other 84 scholarship players and walkons, his fellow coaches, his bosses, the entire university, the entire fanbase, his reputation, his future earnings, etc."

Miles has always played the QB who gives LSU the best chance to win. He did that when Perilloux was here, and he does that now when Jefferson is here.

First, Miles did not show any "unexplainable affinity" to Perilloux as to starting games. Arguably, Perilloux was a more talented QB than Flynn. Perilloux was a top-ranked, five star QB coming out of high school. Flynn was only a 16th-ranked, four star QB coming out. Yet, in 2007, Miles played Flynn, a fifth-year senior, over Perilloux, a third-year sophomore. Experience counts for a lot. It did in 2007, and it does in 2011. There's no "unexplainable affinity" shown by the facts concerning starting games.

Second, Miles did not show any "unexplainable affinity" to Perilloux as to playing time. Perilloux only started when Flynn was hurt. Perilloux had significantly fewer pass attempts in 2007 than Lee had in 2010, and Miles was forced to play Perilloux when Flynn got hurt. There's no "unexplainable affinity" shown by the facts concerning playing time.

Third, Miles did not show any "unexplainable affinity" to Perilloux off the field. Miles only "stuck" with Perilloux for about 18 months, from early 2007 until mid-2008. Miles suspended Perilloux for Perilloux's first problems immediately after Perilloux's second season, and eventually kicked him off the team before his fourth season. Perilloux never made it to his rs junior year at LSU. There's no "unexplainable affinity" shown by the facts concerning Perilloux's activities off the field.

Fourth, your animosity is misplaced. There's no doubt that Perilloux showed horrible judgment as a Tiger.There's no doubt that Perilloux's presence hurt QB recruiting and his dismissal hurt the LSU team at the QB position during 2008 and 2009. However, neither fact reflects badly on Miles.

If Miles had an unexplainable affinity for Perilloux, he would not have booted him when LSU needed his talents so badly.

So, where does that leave your argument that Miles had an unexplainable affinity for Perilloux? It leaves it in a huge pile of shite where all truly shitty arguments belong.

In conclusion, I'm going to agree with the statement:

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[If] you think that Les has some sort of bizarre, unexplainable affinity for Jordan Jefferson that he puts above the other 84 scholarship players and walkons, his fellow coaches, his bosses, the entire university, the entire fanbase, his reputation, his future earnings, etc., [then] I greatly question your intelligence. Not much question actually, you're just a fricking dumbass.

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Now frick off, dumbass.

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just me

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You have become one of the worst posters on here since your return. But I guess thats because you no longer can read with understanding

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First, Miles did not show any "unexplainable affinity" to Perilloux as to starting games.

Second, Miles did not show any "unexplainable affinity" to Perilloux as to playing time

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Where did you get either of those from:

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[If] you think that Les has some sort of bizarre, unexplainable affinity for Jordan Jefferson that he puts above the other 84 scholarship players and walkons, his fellow coaches, his bosses, the entire university, the entire fanbase, his reputation, his future earnings, etc., [then] I greatly question your intelligence. Not much question actually, you're just a fricking dumbass.

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affinity –noun
1. a natural liking to a person, thing, idea, etc.
—Synonyms
1. partiality, fondness; sympathy, leaning, bent.

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Miles has an unnatural partiality, fondness, leaning, etc toward JJ. The discussion was a comparison of his fondness for RP (who started a total of two games). Miles affinity included stealing RP from Texas, yet suspending him multiple times. His affinity allowed RP to stay too long (after 4 investigations/suspensions and a dismissal), which kept others away from LSU, resulting in a decline in LSU football. None of that has anything to do with playing/starting time. Its about a players affect on a team.

Miles awarded the starting job to JJ with zero competition. And JJ racked as many losses as Lee the next year (4). And JJ would have also racked up as many losses as Lee in 2010, if not for Lee. JJ kept the starting job, without any competition. When you lead the 112th ranked offense, and are the 107th ranked QB, and 2 different OCs "simplify" the playbook for you, that's showing affinity.

JJ will once again rack up around 4 losses if Miles allows his "affinity" to cloud his judgement (as we saw in the Arky game; 3 fumbles, 5 three-and-outs). Miles just does not have a good track record with quarterbacks. That's not even debatable (Zach Lee, Garrett, Bailey, McCartney, Hatch, Lee, JJ, RP).

Those are the facts. You're just not willing to accept them because it would be embarassing to have to admit how misguided you have been in leading cheers for JJ.

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Miles has an unnatural partiality, fondness, leaning, etc toward JJ. The discussion was a comparison of his fondness for RP (who started a total of two games). Miles affinity included stealing RP from Texas, yet suspending him multiple times. His affinity allowed RP to stay too long (after 4 investigations/suspensions and a dismissal), which kept others away from LSU, resulting in a decline in LSU football. None of that has anything to do with playing/starting time. Its about a players affect on a team.

Miles awarded the starting job to JJ with zero competition. And JJ racked as many losses as Lee the next year (4). And JJ would have also racked up as many losses as Lee in 2010, if not for Lee. JJ kept the starting job, without any competition. When you lead the 112th ranked offense, and are the 107th ranked QB, and 2 different OCs "simplify" the playbook for you, that's showing affinity.

JJ will once again rack up around 4 losses if Miles allows his "affinity" to cloud his judgement (as we saw in the Arky game; 3 fumbles, 5 three-and-outs). Miles just does not have a good track record with quarterbacks. That's not even debatable (Zach Lee, Garrett, Bailey, McCartney, Hatch, Lee, JJ, RP).

Those are the facts. You're just not willing to accept them because it would be embarassing to have to admit how misguided you have been in leading cheers for JJ.

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I considered rebutting your post. However, a rebuttal would require dissecting each of your sentences because nearly all of them are non-sequiturs or nonsense. I'll let your bullshite stand for all to read and laugh at.

BTW - Your posts ranks right up there in silliness with starting Trindon Holliday as a DE. May God have mercy on your soul.

And may God have mercy on the rest of us by limiting your posts.