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re: Jeremy Hill arrested for battery

Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:42 am to
Posted by AlabamasSalaryCap
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2012
2946 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:42 am to
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I'm just saying to wait until the dust settles to start going forward with what we should do.


That's what I said in my original post "If it turns out to be what they say it is." As in, if it's true that he just snuck someone, then yes. I say cut him. He was already on thin ice after having to miss a whole year for forcing a 14 year old to give him a blowie. We don't need this dude on our team. idc how good he is, he's bad news.

It doesn't matter that "Nobody's perfect" "Everyone makes mistakes" not these kind of mistakes. I've never been arrested for battery or sexual misconduct and I'm sure none of you have either. Why are we holding these guys at a lower standard?

I don't even care if he was provoked. You're representing the University. That other guy is just representing his cock in his hand. It's called taking the high road, Jeremy. Apparently you've never heard of it.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31324 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:43 am to
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the DA can still pursue charges even if the "victim" doesnt want to

After the Shady's fiasco, the DA should probably just let this one go.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:44 am to
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He was already on thin ice after having to miss a whole year for forcing a 14 year old to give him a blowie.


He didn't force anything
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62062 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:45 am to
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the DA can still pursue charges even if the "victim" doesnt want to



This is the entire story.

The incident itself doesn't seem to warrant any kind of suspension...just internal discipline within the program.

The only question is whether or not he will have legal problems as a result of his probation violation. If that is resolved in some reasonable way (community service, extension of probation, etc), then this is a non-story.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:46 am to
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After the Shady's fiasco, the DA should probably just let this one go.


not really. He has a duty to the citizenry, and to the law. If it's on video, it;s a slam dunk...and he should pursue.

BTW using the n-word is not grounds for people to assault you.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:47 am to
and even if the victim was the aggressor, you are only allowed to use reasonable force to defend yourself. As in, do what it takes to get the guy off of you....no more
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31324 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:47 am to
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He has a duty to the citizenry, and to the law. If it's on video, it;s a slam dunk...and he should pursu

Does the DA pursue every drunken bar fight that happens at Reggies? Honest question.
Posted by AlabamasSalaryCap
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2012
2946 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:48 am to
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He didn't force anything


Hill and another ex-Redemptorist student, Avery Tate, pleaded guilty Jan. 6, 2012, to engaging in a sexual act with a 14-year-old girl in a school locker room in December 2010

^ That's the unofficial story. What do you know that no one else does?
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:49 am to
it would be a bit discriminatory for DA to pursue this if it is "just another bar fight" due to him being a high profile guy in BR
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:50 am to
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Hill and another ex-Redemptorist student, Avery Tate, pleaded guilty Jan. 6, 2012, to engaging in a sexual act with a 14-year-old girl in a school locker room in December 2010

^ That's the unofficial story. What do you know that no one else does?


where in that statement does it say they forced her to do anything?
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:51 am to
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That's the unofficial story. What do you know that no one else does?


Hill plead guilty to carnal knowledge not rape.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:51 am to
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Does the DA pursue every drunken bar fight that happens at Reggies? Honest question.




Does every bar fight at reggies end with the victim going to the hospital, is on video, and confirmed has one of the assailants as being on probation? Serious questions...
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:52 am to
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it would be a bit discriminatory for DA to pursue this if it is "just another bar fight"


lol wut?!?
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:53 am to
IF it is just another bar fight....IF

if the evidence says otherwise, fine...learn to read
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:55 am to
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IF it is just another bar fight....IF



what? They have video apparently. They know for a fact one of the assailants is on probation. This is EASY.

Who would be "discriminated" against here?
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:57 am to
they have video of a lot of fights....but the key is, whats in the video?

is it really worth spending tax dollars and time pursuing this if it wasnt a big deal?

extend his probation, give some community service and be done with it
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:59 am to
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is it really worth spending tax dollars and time pursuing this if it wasnt a big deal?

extend his probation, give some community service and be done with it


you realize your solution means they would have to charge him, right?

You also realize the he would either have to plea out or be tried, right? THE DA cant sentence him.

good god man.
Posted by AlabamasSalaryCap
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2012
2946 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:59 am to
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where in that statement does it say they forced her to do anything?



You're right. I'm sure the 8th grader was totally up for a gang-banging from the varsity football team.

Why are you guys making excuses for him? "Oh no but it was only carnal knowledge of a minor" Both are shady scenarios, and as long as he keeps getting a pass and is allowed to light up the scoreboard, he's always going to be an idiot who gets into trouble.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:01 am to
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you realize your solution means they would have to charge him, right?

You also realize the he would either have to plea out or be tried, right? THE DA cant sentence him.

good god man.


no shite

the charge can be dropped but he still violated probation by being at a bar. but you are smarter than me so thanks for the legal lesson.
Posted by XbengalTiger
New Bama Standard 9-4
Member since Oct 2003
5572 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:02 am to
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But you can't just pick and choose the situations when it's ok to beat the shite out of someone for saying something to you.
Actually, depending on the state you live in, you can. It's called "fighting WORDS"... and a judge can place blame of a fight on the person that invoked "fighting words". The problem is the judge may not always agree that the words spoken were offensive enough to be considered "fighting words"but the idea that you can say anything you want to anyone without any consequence is totally incorrect.
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