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re: Jayden Daniels will not drastically increase his draft stock with another CFB season.

Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:26 pm to
What do you think the pro scouts are telling JD?

They are likely telling him something very similar to what I said in the OP.

Just because career advice for JD entering the NFL this season does not mean LSU fans should not support him if he decides to return for next season.
Posted by Madking
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58982 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:29 pm to
Comparing JD to Burrow lmfao
Posted by LSU_connoisseur
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2022
795 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:29 pm to
The Rant has to be the biggest collection of mouth breathing morons on planet earth. The board of directors for the mouth breathing morons of the Rant are the posters rooting for JD to leave. The ingratitude and hatred is fricking pathetic
Posted by Lapaz
Member since Dec 2018
709 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:30 pm to
I don't know about Pickett, but Burrow didn't have enough quality starts to show his ability. I had read reports that he was the best QB in camp at Ohio St, but they didn't select him, so he transferred to LSU without a training camp, which set him back most of the year. That's what set him back. Daniels is much more settled than Burrow was. However Daniels improved throughout the year, before slumping a little towards the end. If he manages to perform most of the year the way he did against Alabama, he will definitely improve his stock, and even in next years' QB richer draft, could still get selected in the first round. How he performs against Purdue may be the biggest factor in what he does. If he does great, then he will probably declare for the draft. If he only does okay, then he may have to come back to prove his worth.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68630 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:30 pm to
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Tell me again what were Joe Burrow’s Heisman odds after the 2018 season?

2000-1?

How likely do you think Daniels, or any other QB prospect for that matter, will make a jump from a late round pick to 1st overall?

Burrow's situation is the exception, not the rule. People really need to stop comparing what happened with Burrow to Daniels. I could name a whole lot of LSU QBs that made no jump at all coming back
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 3:32 pm
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:31 pm to
Look I don't think he is catching Caleb Williams....with that said I don't think his decision making is that far off. We saw him make great decisions for long stretches this year...then we saw him digress and improve and digress again. That tells me he isn't far off.

I feel like he could certainly improve his stock with a year back. I really think he could move up into the 2-4 range. I mean shite the NFL scouts are surely going to look at Bo Nix's time at Auburn in a normal offense against good competition and see that he was basically trash. I'm interested to see if Nix goes as high as everyone says he might.

The issue for Jayden is he could just as easily hurt his stock. I'm not sure how much that would cost him but I bet it could be a fairly decent amount. To me that is where the decision point lies.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132716 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:32 pm to
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Tell me again what were Joe Burrow’s Heisman odds after the 2018 season?

2000-1?



You know what changed with Burrow from 2018 to 2019? Syncing up with his receivers. His decision making, ability to recognize defenses and arm talent was always there. He just lacked experience with his WRs in 2018 and the chemistry with his WRs grew through the entire season and carried into 2019.
Posted by JohnDeer
Phoenix
Member since Oct 2022
325 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:33 pm to
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Joe Burrow was a projected 6th round pick going into 2019. Anything can happen.


Everyone knows the biggest leap a player makes is from year 1 to year 2 stared - as was the case with Joe. Daniels has started 3 full seasons already - what makes you believe he will get any better? He is what he is at this point
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68630 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:33 pm to
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We saw him make great decisions for long stretches this year...then we saw him digress and improve and digress again.

We saw him make great decisions for 3 games: Florida, Ole Miss, and Alabama. That's one three game stretch in the middle of a 13 game season. Daniels' performances down the stretch are concerning. He appeared to have turned a corner and then went right back to the QB he was at the beginning of the season.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 3:35 pm
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:33 pm to
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Lol yes he could absolutely


LOL, Or the exact opposite
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11461 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:35 pm to
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Comparing JD to Burrow lmfao


The comparison is the ability to make improvement heading into their Senior year.

ASU has proven to be a dumpster fire under Herm (now fired) so I give Daniels the benefit of the doubt on his ability to improve with better coaching.

You’re also the idiot who was telling us that Mettenberger was a better returning QB at LSU compared to Burrow before the 2019 season. So by default, anything you say in regards to QBs should be tossed into the trash.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 3:37 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132716 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

We saw him make great decisions for 3 games: Florida, Ole Miss, and Alabama.


I thought he did pretty well in the first half of the SEC Championship game too.
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
13437 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:37 pm to
How about stop taking shots at this kid every opportunity you get and try putting that effort into supporting him and we will see what happens.
Posted by cowboy4ever
z-town
Member since Dec 2009
2240 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:39 pm to
It's sickening,how bad some of you want this guy to leave LSU,
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58982 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:40 pm to
Well now you’re just making shite up. I compared a bunch of past QBs numbers to make the point that our offense needed to rely on Burrow and those WRs more than we did in 2018.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 3:42 pm
Posted by LSUdude247
Member since Oct 2014
7485 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

Comparing JD to Burrow lmfao



I don't see why you wouldn't compare them. Nobody expected Joe Burrow to break out like he did in 2019. Both Joe and Jayden have similar first year stats at LSU.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58982 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:43 pm to
Look at the amount of plays both ran in their first year here. Look at the style of offense and run pass ratio. Playing QB is more than stats, there are plenty of QBs with gaudy numbers who were average to below average QBs.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 3:44 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132716 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:44 pm to
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How about stop taking shots at this kid every opportunity you get


I didn't take a shot at him? How is an evaluation to go to the NFL, his life long goal, taking a shot?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68630 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:44 pm to
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I thought he did pretty well in the first half of the SEC Championship game too.

Did he? He had 4 straight 3 and out drives (or 3 with another resulting in a turnover on the 2nd play) totaling -6 yards in the first half. He was 1/6 for 9 yards with an interception, and a sack on those 4 drives. He had a pretty good start and a decent drive to close the half but was shut down the majority of the 1st half.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
53536 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:45 pm to
Man do you really think he’s going to flip that switch? I just don’t see it.
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