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re: Jayden Daniels is the highest graded rusher in college football
Posted on 9/19/22 at 6:47 am to whitefoot
Posted on 9/19/22 at 6:47 am to whitefoot
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You're wasting your time with these guys. I'm convinced they've made up their minds and closed the book. They keep saying he's inaccurate despite completing 70% of his passes this year. They keep saying he's a 3 year starter so he is what he is, despite him showing tremendous improvement each game. They don't even care to notice his improvement. They don't care to notice how much more patient he was in the pocket on Saturday night. How he was almost always looking to throw when he broke contain before tucking and running. They keep saying he takes off when his first read isn't there despite 3 games worth of evidence that this simply isn't true. Honestly, I don't think anything Jayden Daniels does this year will satisfy these guys. He's simply not the style of quarterback they want leading LSU and it's a damn shame. He's a gamer, he's tough and he's very effective.
Daniels is tough and an elite rusher, but the criticisms of him are definitely valid. We are in a thread discussing his elite pff rushing grade. What about his passing grade? One of the worst in the country. To call Daniels accurate is incredibly delusional and even more so to use Completion percentage as a definitive metric. But then again we have people bringing up Tebow and Cam in this thread. Not sure why I expected more from the rant.
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Posted on 9/19/22 at 6:49 am to Jack Crevalle
He's been in college for 4 yrs now..he won't become a better passer bro...at this point he is who he is
Posted on 9/19/22 at 6:54 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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Give Nuss and Howard a half each this next game and go from there.
We already know Nuss isn’t the man right now
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:18 am to geauxbrown
You’re out of your f&$king mind if you are trying to compare their play to Burrow’s last year. Absolutely delusional.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:19 am to BeeFense5
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….this place is full of fricking retards.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:24 am to Beats2Geaux
FACT
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:29 am to Jack Crevalle
This is gonna be Vince Young all over again when it works.
He's special with his legs. But 1/3 of those stats came from playing a d2 school
He's special with his legs. But 1/3 of those stats came from playing a d2 school
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:33 am to whatiknowsofar
Vince Young was 6-5, 230lbs and was a very good passer by the end of year 2. He and Daniels are nothing alike. Young played in an offense designed for him, Daniels OC isn’t calling games to Daniels strengths.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 7:36 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:51 am to Madking
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He and Daniels are nothing alike
Well this is patently false.
They both have the ability to make a man miss and are special, not just good with their legs.
Of course he isn't the passer Vince was. That why I said when it works he'll be Vince Young like.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:53 am to Jack Crevalle
Starting to remind me of lamar.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:57 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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Give Nuss and Howard a half each this next game and go from there
Our fans are so laughably stupid. Seriously, you must have shite for brains.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:00 am to Jack Crevalle
Hey, that's wonderful, but it is MUCH more important that a QB be able to provide an effective passing threat. Without that, I don't care how much he runs.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:31 am to Van Wilder
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but the criticisms of him are definitely valid
There's literally someone in this thread saying he should play running back and wildcat and let Nuss and Walker split game reps at quarterback.
A lot of you people keep saying you're just pointing out valid shortcomings, but seemingly don't care about noting any improvements, or the improvements aren't happening fast enough. But many, like the guy I referenced above, are just idiots making asinine statements.
I don't think anyone is saying he's perfect. He's definitely got flaws in his game, but he's clearly our best option at quarterback, so why continually harp on the negatives while shitting on any positives he brings?
Valid criticisms of Daniels, as I see them, are he's inconsistent with his accuracy, he's slow to make decisions with the ball and he doesn't anticipate throws very well. But if you're not seeing improvements from game 1 to 3, then I don't know what you're watching.
A lot of the issues Saturday night were State dropping 8 guys into coverage and Daniels not having the confidence to make throws that were there (or not seeing them in time).
It's obvious he's going to play it safe. If he feels he can run for 10 yards, he's going to take that over throwing a pass that could get 20, but also could go incomplete or get picked. An example that comes to mind of this is his 3 yard TD run. They motioned Boutte across the formation and ran his route into the flat. He wasn't wide open, but Daniels would have needed to make a good throw to the outside. If he threw it too far inside it could have been a pick six and if he threw it too wide, it's incomplete. He saw the middle of the field was open, so he looked at Boutte and immediately took off up the middle for the TD. Personally, I'm just glad we got the TD, but it seems many on here are unable to accept this is just his game right now.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:34 am to whitefoot
He’ll probably lose us a game at some point. Until then I don’t have much of an issue with him.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:37 am to whitefoot
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despite him showing tremendous improvement each game.
I must have missed this part. He failed to throw the ball repeatedly to open receivers. This is a fatal flaw if not rectified. He is in his 4th year making it all the more puzzling. These are just the facts. Everyone here wants him to start being a passing QB as that will win games. Relying on his running to the detriment of the passing game is a formula for failure.
Do you not agree with this?
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:43 am to White Tiger
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Do you not agree with this?
I mean, he's definitely a work in progress and has room for improvement. Is anyone saying he's perfect? I think I pretty clearly laid out what I see is his deficiencies in my post.
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formula for failure.
Some of you are really fatalistic. It's kind of annoying.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 9:49 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:56 am to BeeFense5
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I was told by the board that his rushing stats don’t count when evaluating him though
It counts when you’re running for your life.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:06 am to Jack Crevalle
Tebow (2008), Jefferson and Newton (2010), Jefferson (2011), Manziel (2012), Marshall and Knight (2013), Wallace and Jones (2014), Wallace (2015), Watson (2016), Lawrence (2018), Burrow and Nix (2019)
You always need a little luck to beat Alabama but it always helps to have a QB who can tuck and run or are a threat to run by design. As dominant as Burrow was in 2019, we don't beat Alabama that year without the plays he made with his feet.
You always need a little luck to beat Alabama but it always helps to have a QB who can tuck and run or are a threat to run by design. As dominant as Burrow was in 2019, we don't beat Alabama that year without the plays he made with his feet.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:12 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Onions
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:14 am to BeeFense5
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In what way?
Because people are ultimately afraid of having a guy that can’t see the field, can’t get our skill guys involved and it all becomes about him running the ball. We can’t even complete slants. It doesn’t really keep everyone involved and guys give up on routes. It’s just an overall effect. So posting about how highly graded a runner he is doesn’t have the impact one might hope. We would like a highly graded passer at the position where passing the ball is paramount. I’m just explaining the sentiment that plenty of people seem to feel but there’s plenty to like about him as a leader and he is a threat. As I’ve said before, we would be in deep dog shite without.
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