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re: Jarrett Lee's Pick Sixes
Posted on 1/12/09 at 8:52 am to VernonPLSUfan
Posted on 1/12/09 at 8:52 am to VernonPLSUfan
quote:Spot on!
LSU defense to me was a bigger disappointment than all the others combined. We could'nt stop Arkansas or Troy St., how can we stop Ga. or Fla.
Hopefully this coaching change will mend most of that.
With a stout "D", we wouldn't have had to take many of the offensive chances with an inexperienced QB. The material is there. Hopefully now the coaching is there too.
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Posted on 1/12/09 at 8:59 am to felixporelesoo
so...looking at those numbers...it looks like a higher pct of FGs were kicked then TDs scored against LSU- a silver lining there
Posted on 1/12/09 at 12:59 pm to tigerfanfishin
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This post was edited on 1/12/09 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 1/12/09 at 10:25 pm to felixporelesoo
ya'll really need to lay off the kid he did his best every game. he will be a great qb here.
Posted on 1/12/09 at 10:40 pm to felixporelesoo
It's already been gone through, ad naseum. Read the threads before you post, and add to if you can.
Posted on 1/12/09 at 10:47 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:If by "several" you mean two or three, then you are right. And many QBs who have a really tough time with INTs (as Lee clearly did) will end up throwing 3 or 4 of those INTs, and maybe have another one over the middle run back on a fluke. But Lee had like 4 or 5 INTs down the field, near the middle of the field, all run back with freakish success. The alignment of players at the moment of interception, the angles taken by the offensive players in reaction to the pick, the missed tackles, the unlikely positioning of blockers just at the right moment for the return . . . it was a freakish, freakish thing. Of course, most of that (besides the INTs) was not Lee's fault. But a lot of people are not satisfied with bad luck, or bad breaks. They insist on a villain, a person to hate, loathe and -- most importantly -- blame for whatever frustrates them.
Deep or to the center of the field is a different story, shouldn't get run back. In JL's case, several ints were predictable opponent TDs based on the routes and throws.
So, everything bad that happens for an entire season is blamed on a QB who didn't even play in every game, and even played well in some; all because he threw a bunch of interceptions.
Posted on 1/12/09 at 11:07 pm to VernonPLSUfan
The reality of the unbelievable Lee criticism comes down to 4 plays.
He threw pick 6s against Troy, Aub, and Tulane. He made up for those mistakes. Forgivable.
He threw a pick 6 against Fla that went for 51 yds. But no way does that one play keep us from a win. A wash.
He threw a pick 6 against Bama that went for 52 yds with multiple missed tackles. Proved to be the difference in the game. A tackle by anyone wins us that game.
He threw 2 against Ga for 46 and 53 yds, again deciding factors in that game. But Ga scored plenty without his help.
Whether Lee throws the pick 6s or not, we lose to Fl, Ole Miss, and Ark, and probably Ga.
The kid has caught a lot of hell for a one, maybe two game swing, that two missed tackles could have also saved.
He threw pick 6s against Troy, Aub, and Tulane. He made up for those mistakes. Forgivable.
He threw a pick 6 against Fla that went for 51 yds. But no way does that one play keep us from a win. A wash.
He threw a pick 6 against Bama that went for 52 yds with multiple missed tackles. Proved to be the difference in the game. A tackle by anyone wins us that game.
He threw 2 against Ga for 46 and 53 yds, again deciding factors in that game. But Ga scored plenty without his help.
Whether Lee throws the pick 6s or not, we lose to Fl, Ole Miss, and Ark, and probably Ga.
The kid has caught a lot of hell for a one, maybe two game swing, that two missed tackles could have also saved.
Posted on 1/13/09 at 12:54 am to RobbBobb
that was the smartest thing i've read so for about j.lee and the int's.
Posted on 1/13/09 at 1:16 am to ForeverLSU02
quote:
You have met your worthless post quota for the day. You can stop now, k
His quote was fact based and interesting. Yours--like mine--was a retarded flame. I'll take him over you, tard.
Posted on 1/13/09 at 3:00 am to felixporelesoo
quote:
Your thoughts?
It is an incompetent coaching staff that puts the game in the hands of a third-string redshirt freshman QB, when he has one of the best (if not the best) RB in the SEC and one of the best (if not the best) OL in the SEC.
It is also an immature and clueless fanbase that would criticize a third-string redshirt freshman QB for not playing like a senior All-American.
Posted on 1/13/09 at 7:56 am to felixporelesoo
It's over and done with now. We have JJ and RS. They are the future.
Posted on 1/13/09 at 8:22 am to TX Tiger
quote:Way to overreach. I think people just wanted him to play like a 2nd year, 3rd string RS freshman, and he didn't.
It is also an immature and clueless fanbase that would criticize a third-string redshirt freshman QB for not playing like a senior All-American.
Posted on 1/13/09 at 8:29 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:
Way to overreach. I think people just wanted him to play like a 2nd year, 3rd string RS freshman, and he didn't.
and you say hes's "overreaching"?
how exactly does a "2d yr, 3rd string RS" suppose to play??
DO you have any idea how much practice or sanps JL got last year?
gees ATL , that was a stupid post dude, serioulsy.
Posted on 1/13/09 at 8:30 am to RobbBobb
quote:Doubtful, after all the pick 6's started to add up, the defense just gave up, saying WTF, why are we out here when our QB just keeps giving the ball away to the other team. Some of the picks were just demoralizing, and the defense gave up. Not saying it's right, it's just a fact.
Whether Lee throws the pick 6s or not, we lose to Fl, Ole Miss, and Ark, and probably Ga.
quote:Oh, so now his pick 6's are blamed on someone not making a tackle. How convenient. You do realize that the offensive players who are 'supposed' to make a tackle are actually moving in the OPPOSITE direction at a fast rate (running) while the defensive player who makes the pick is running AWAY from them in the complete opposite direction, don't you? That's a headstart of over 10 yards before the offensive player even realizes what happened.
he kid has caught a lot of hell for a one, maybe two game swing, that two missed tackles could have also saved.
Posted on 1/13/09 at 8:32 am to council
quote:So, wanting him to play like he is taught to in practice and after starting 8 games is overreaching? This does not compute.
and you say hes's "overreaching"?
how exactly does a "2d yr, 3rd string RS" suppose to play??
Posted on 1/13/09 at 8:35 am to Tiger_n_ATL
so for most athletes, noticeable improvement comes more likely after 8 games during season, or offseason? please answer.
Posted on 1/13/09 at 10:38 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:
Oh, so now his pick 6's are blamed on someone not making a tackle.
You really dont know football, do you?
Every int or fumble or blocked kick is 6, UNLESS SOMEONE MAKES A TACKLE.
Dude, as has been posted by others, you really are showing a lack of FB IQ to continually dog a RS freshman QB in the SEC. Grow up and act your age. Allow the kid to time to improve without showing your stupidity.
Posted on 1/13/09 at 12:27 pm to RobbBobb
quote:I'm not dogging him, just stating a fact. Every observation is not a personal attack, you're just obviously his second cousin or something so you take it personally. Quit being a crybaby.
Dude, as has been posted by others, you really are showing a lack of FB IQ to continually dog a RS freshman QB in the SEC. Grow up and act your age. Allow the kid to time to improve without showing your stupidity.
Posted on 1/13/09 at 12:30 pm to RobbBobb
quote:
You really dont know football, do you?
Every int or fumble or blocked kick is 6, UNLESS SOMEONE MAKES A TACKLE.
Keep 'em coming. You provide good comic releif for the board. You do realize that a pick ACTUALLY HAS TO BE THROWN FIRST before it become a "6", don't you? The onus is on the QB not to FCUKING THROW THEM in the first place. Good God, you have to be one of the worst posters on the board.
Posted on 1/13/09 at 3:56 pm to tigerfanfishin
quote:
Thats a lot of points off of one players turnovers. That has to be close to a record.
I remember a game in the early 90's that Jamie Howard had 3 or 4 pick sixes against Auburn.
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