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re: Jarret Lee: The Man, The Myth, The Legend

Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10448 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:09 pm to
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downvoted, RA'd


Someone is a lil girl
Posted by TheLoupGarou
Benton, LA
Member since Oct 2010
1182 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:13 pm to
Most interesting post in the last three hours, fer shur!
Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
3532 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:16 pm to
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I've been wanting to post something for years with regards to why J Lee "might" have been held out of the BCSNCG.


Should have read the rant and learned the whole story.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
56302 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:18 pm to
Pick 6 Lee
Posted by tig3r
Monroe, La
Member since Jun 2010
185 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:20 pm to
Aaaaaarrrrrggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:20 pm to
by all accounts he is a fine young man. he was smart and had a quick release and accurate arm. but, the kid did not like to get hit. I surely don't blame him for that but I am not a college football player.

he did his best and what else can you ask of a football player. he just wasn't SEC tough.
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7350 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 10:21 pm to
NO!
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7350 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 10:21 pm to
STOP!!
Posted by PosiFan59
rahcheer
Member since Nov 2014
171 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 10:35 pm to
So how have you been doing, Jarret?
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2609 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 10:43 pm to
He must have not been that great - never made a roster in the pros. However, I do agree that he could have been a Tiger legend had he got to play in BCS title game. There are some (I'm on the fence) that will NEVER forgive Miles for that bonehead decision to let Jefferson continue to play to the bitter end. It was the worst coaching and QB play I have ever seen on the big stage. Embarrassing is the only word that comes to mind. Let's hope Miles has learned from his past mistakes and gives Harris a chance this season....
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12900 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 10:52 pm to
The real question is why did Les Miles hate Lee so much? Inquiring minds want to know. Did he hit on Smackers?
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 10:53 pm to
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So how have you been doing, Jarret?


boxcar is JJ's cousin, this is a sarcasm thread poking fun at Lee...
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29395 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 5:48 am to
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29206 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 6:31 am to
I regret that I'm only allowed one downvote.

Poor attempt to distract from the discussion about what a terrible QB your nephew was.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 6:54 am to
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The man some said could have been the next Dan Marino with his quick release and striking accuracy




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Was he unfairly treated by a secret agenda of the higher powers?




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Why was he held out of the 2011 NC game where many believe he would have led LSU to great victory?




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There are many who can't sleep at night as these questions burn through their very souls.




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These and many other questions must be answered and the culprits must be held accountable


Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5541 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:00 am to
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There are some (I'm on the fence) that will NEVER forgive Miles for that bonehead decision to let Jefferson continue to play to the bitter end. It was the worst coaching and QB play I have ever seen on the big stage. Embarrassing is the only word that comes to mind. Let's hope Miles has learned from his past mistakes and gives Harris a chance this season....
Hmmmm . . . let's see. Miles has a choice.

At halftime of the BCSCG, Jefferson had completed over 85% of his passes, and he has a QB efficiency rating of 116.91.

At the end of the third quarter of the BCSCG, Jefferson had completed 76.92% of his passes, and he has a QB efficiency rating of 97.08.

Or Miles could turn to Lee:

In the 2008 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 69.13 and a completion percentage of 38.24%.
In the 2009 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 56.96 and a completion percentage of 40.00%.
In the 2010 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 137.54 and a completion percentage of 57.14%.
In the 2011 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 14.52 and a completion percentage of 42.19%.

Comparing Lee's QB Rating against Alabama to Jefferson's QB Rating against Alabama in the BCSCG, Lee had a higher QB Rating against Alabama only ONE time in Lee's entire career.

Comparing Lee's completion percentage against Alabama to Jefferson's completion percentage against Alabama in the BCSCG, Lee NEVER had a higher completion percentage against Alabama in Lee's entire career.

Miles can stick with a QB who is completing over 75% of his passes, or he can substitute Lee into the game.


Lee might have mixed things up. Lee might have sparked the team. However, the odds were not in Lee's favor. He was exactly the kind of QB that Alabama's defense feasted on: an immobile pocket passer. His history against Alabama confirms that statement, and his history against Alabama can be fairly described as abysmal.

On the other hand, Jefferson as QB slowed the Bama rush down. Moreover, Jefferson's ability to lead a second half comeback in 2011 was rock solid before the BCSCG. Jefferson had led comebacks in the last three HUGE games prior to the BCSCG: the GOTC, the Arkansas game, and the SECCG.


Many fans did not think at halftime of the GOTC that Jefferson was going to bring LSU to victory. However, in OT, Jefferson executed a perfect short-side option to Ford which put LSU in position for victory.

LSU beat Alabama at their house in the GOTC.


Many fans did not think with four minutes left in the half and LSU trailing 14-7 against Arkansas that Jefferson was going to bring LSU to victory. However, Jefferson passed for 208 yards, LSU's second highest passing total of the season, and Jefferson rushed for an additional 53 yards, all against the #3 team in the nation which positioned LSU for victory.

LSU blew the doors off of Arkansas, won the SEC West, and earned an invitation in the SECCG.


Many fans did not think at halftime with LSU trailing 10-7 to Georgia in the SECCG that Jefferson was going to bring LSU to victory. However, Jefferson executed options and zone reads to near perfection, and he threw a TD pass to Hilliard as LSU's offense scored FOUR TDs against a Top Five defense in their own backyard.

LSU rushed for over 200 yards, and Jefferson being the QB was an integral part of that, and LSU blew out Georgia and earned the right to play in the BCSCG.


So, of course, many fans did not think at halftime of Jan 9 that Jefferson was going to bring LSU to victory. Unfortunately, the stars were aligned against LSU that night. They never got the spark they needed against a totally amped up Alabama team that was desperate for redemption. However, Jefferson completed nearly 65% of his passes despite his porous offensive line. Had LSU been able to continue to switch it up and throw more in the second half of the BCSCG, it might have been a different story. However, the line could not hold Alabama back long enough to give Jefferson time to throw.


Jefferson played in FOUR huge games in 2011: the GOTC, the Arkansas game, the SECCG, and the BCSCG. At halftime, or four minutes before the half, LSU was losing in each of those games. Nevertheless, Miles showed faith in Jefferson, and Jefferson delivered in every game but one.

Thus, in my opinion, given the three HUGE games before the BCSCG, a reasonable mind could rationally choose to stick with Jefferson for the second half of the BCSCG because it had worked well in the three previous HUGE games.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 9:48 am
Posted by mlminbtr
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
650 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:16 am to
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Make it stop. Please, let this nightmare end.


It can end...simply don't read it...

I never understand this infatuation with the message board police..."making it end" is just a simple choice.

Provided the rules of the adminstration are followed, the OP has a right to the board just like you do
Posted by PosiFan59
rahcheer
Member since Nov 2014
171 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:11 am to
JJ would be a funnier joke.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18774 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:02 pm to
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