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re: Jalen Collins 40 time Updated
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:02 am to HMTVBrian2
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:02 am to HMTVBrian2
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He erased Mike Evans, a top 10 NFL draft pick
That's all anybody says when they describe RR. One good game doesn't define a player. There were more games he got beat and didn't look like the corner in the A&M game. I'm not saying he isn't good but he's not a god like LSU fans make him out to be
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Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:19 am to Howyouluhdat
Regarding the RR vs Collins debate, both players showed flashes and both had struggles. Collins was burned early and often when he first started before being dropped on the depth chart. He turned it around last season. No coaching blunders, no conspiracy theories, the guy manned up and stepped up his game.
As for the combine, his straight line speed looks good. Hopefully he does well in the cone drills. Speed is good, but you have to have agility and sometimes the tall guys are more stiff in the hips and don't change direction as well. I'm happy for him though. He's going to get paid well with his combine results moving him up.
As for the combine, his straight line speed looks good. Hopefully he does well in the cone drills. Speed is good, but you have to have agility and sometimes the tall guys are more stiff in the hips and don't change direction as well. I'm happy for him though. He's going to get paid well with his combine results moving him up.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:24 am to BayouCowboy
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BayouCowboy
I agree, I think Collins has some upside. He can get better in coverage and with the tools he already has can be a solid corner in the league
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:40 am to jvl71006
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Jalen was given letter generated by LSU saying stay in school. Not NFL! That is the fact! Potential first round draft pick isn't good enough to start at LSU ahead of 5'10 White and 160# Robinson? How can the ineptitude of Raymond and Miles be any clearer?
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:43 am to Howyouluhdat
Collins was a good player for us. He def was one if not the fastest player on defense. At least of the guys getting pt. If he goes in the first, just be happy for him. The draft is a gamble. He wouldn't be the first and won't be the last guy that may not live up to where he was drafted.
I'd also like to point out he's a better player than RR. He didn't get kicked off the team and screw over his teammates. Give me that guy.
I'd also like to point out he's a better player than RR. He didn't get kicked off the team and screw over his teammates. Give me that guy.
This post was edited on 2/23/15 at 10:46 am
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:43 am to sjmabry
They measure you barefoot and compressed at the combine, so pretty much everybody is an inch shorter than advertised.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:45 am to BayouCowboy
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the guy manned up and stepped up his game.
This
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:49 am to Howyouluhdat
I love the RR shuts down mike Evans logic = GOAT
Posted on 2/23/15 at 11:44 am to HMTVBrian2
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I don't think he really had much to gain by coming back next year. He was probably going to get the same amount of playing time regardless, because LSU has like 19 corners that could all reliably start. It's working out for him though.
This is the same thing I've said plenty of times. In addition to that, I read a couple weeks ago, that Mills is a top 3 safety prospect next year.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 11:52 am to jtran1988
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I love the RR shuts down mike Evans logic = GOAT
Yeah it's pretty bad. He was highly billed and seemed to "figure it out" that game. He never played that well again. Collins was much more consistent and a more complete defender.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 12:49 pm to Mr. Wayne
J.Collins Player Comparison Strengths
Compared his stengths to Byron Maxwell, Dee Millner, Charles Tillman and Aqib Talib
NOIIIIIICE
Compared his stengths to Byron Maxwell, Dee Millner, Charles Tillman and Aqib Talib
NOIIIIIICE
Posted on 2/23/15 at 12:57 pm to jtran1988
Good luck Jalen!
Posted on 2/23/15 at 1:07 pm to jtran1988
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I love the RR shuts down mike Evans logic = GOAT
It's mostly people that don't actually watch games they just get on TD and see that RR shut down Mike Evans once and they run with it.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 1:22 pm to Howyouluhdat
Yep..and our front 7 should get just as much credit in shutting down Evans as RR gets.
Manziel was 16/41 in that game, and a lot of it had to do with how our DL played against him. They got after him, contained him to the pocket, etc.
Manziel was 16/41 in that game, and a lot of it had to do with how our DL played against him. They got after him, contained him to the pocket, etc.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 1:56 pm to Howyouluhdat
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It's mostly people that don't actually watch games they just get on TD and see that RR shut down Mike Evans once and they run with it.
That's true of most hype. People who protested Harry Potter books mostly had not read those books. In retrospect, those protests look silly.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 2:14 pm to YellowShoe
RR was never picked on since the moment he stepped on the field. He was beat a few times but he seems to always be invisible on the field like richard sherman was this year. Truth is White and Collins get targeted more RR. Everyone makes a big deal out RR shutting down eveans because they constitently tried to throw the ball to evans a failed horribly.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 2:24 pm to jvl71006
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How can the ineptitude of Raymond and Miles be any clearer?
Or maybe White and Robinson were that good and you don't know football. Everyone and their brother has said that Collins uses athleticism over instinct. Maybe Collins left because he knew that White has one spot on lock down and Toliver may very well take the other. Maybe Robinson gets his act together and he has already beaten Collins out once.
Please explain how Miles and Raymond have been incompetent when it comes to our DB's?
Posted on 2/23/15 at 3:17 pm to Penrod
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I still don't buy it. Very few NFL GMs are stupid enough to focus exclusively on measurables. Jalen Collins' production on the field simply does not equate to a high second round pick.
There isn't a GM in the nfl that hasn't blown a pick on someone with great measurables. Happens all the time.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 5:07 pm to SNAPPERHEAD
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1st run- 4.48 2nd run- 4.43 Boom
Wow, that was unexpected. He just shot up the draft board.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 5:57 pm to TigerAlum93
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They measure you barefoot and compressed at the combine, so pretty much everybody is an inch shorter than advertised.
He measuered 1/2" shorter than advertised. He measured 6' 1 and 4/10's" or just shy of 6'1 1/2"
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