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re: It’s hard to watch Curiel without thinking of Duplantis…
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:48 pm to Cryin Kelly
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:48 pm to Cryin Kelly
Oh you’d be surprised at some of the folks around here
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:31 am to lsufball19
You can’t compare Curiel to Duplantis’s freshman year and then use duplantis’s HR numbers from his senior year.
Especially when duplantis hit 2 HRs each year his freshman thru junior year.
Curiel may not be a 10 HR guy as a freshman, but he’ll surely be in the 5-8 range.
Especially when duplantis hit 2 HRs each year his freshman thru junior year.
Curiel may not be a 10 HR guy as a freshman, but he’ll surely be in the 5-8 range.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 6:40 am
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:36 am to cajuntiger85
His swing reminds me of a young Carlos Beltran
With the pop like u mentioned
With the pop like u mentioned
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:41 am to Keaux10
I thought of Moises Alou first time at the plate. Hope he is that good.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:42 am to lsufball19
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right now, not really. Duplantis hit 12 HRs his last year here
Cant compare senior to freshman year. Duplantis only hit 2 HRs each year his FR, SO, JR seasons. 16 total XBH his freshman year. Curiel already at 6 XBH thus far in 14 games, Duplantis played in 66 games his FR year.
Curiel pretty clearly has more power than Duplantis does at this stage in their careers, no way you could argue against that if you watched both. He's just a slightly bigger overall dude with a little more pop in that swing.
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Balls/bats are hotter now than they were then as well.
This is technically false. Bats and ball standards are unchanged from when Duplantis was here to now. Same bat standard, flat seam baseballs were the standard the year before Duplantis came to LSU. So they are technically using equal bats and baseballs even if you want to argue bats have gotten a little better overall since 6-9 years ago, sure...but so have college arms overall as well. North Dakota St wasnt coming to baton rouge 9 years ago and having a freshman lefty throwing 91-92 with a plus breaking ball. The amount of guys Curiel will face throwing mid to upper 90s and even 100 will be way more than Duplantis ever did. College baseball is just way more talented now than 6-9 years ago.
Just as a quick throwback, during Duplantis' freshman year our weekend starters were Lange (sat low-mid 90s, touched 95-96 or so), Poche (sat high 80s, touched 90-91) and Valek III (sat mid 80s, maybe touched 88-89?). Caleb Gilbert was most used reliever in terms of IP and he had heat (sat mid 90s, touched like 97-98 maybe). Parker Bugg was most used reliever in terms of appearances and he sat like high 80s and touched 90-91 I think.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 6:57 am
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:46 am to thunderbird1100
the baseballs are definitely different, they just wont admit it.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:58 am to Cryin Kelly
He reminds me more of Tre Morgan during his Freshman season. Works the count, doesn't strike out much and base hit machine.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:08 am to thunderbird1100
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This is technically false.
That doesn’t make it technically false. The ball standards in MLB, for instance, have remained unchanged for a long time. However, scientific studies have proven wide ranges of exit velos over the years with the “same” baseballs.
Players haven’t magically gotten that much better hitting a baseball the last 5 years for home runs to have exploded like they have across the country.
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Cant compare senior to freshman year.
Why not?
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 9:10 am
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:22 am to Cryin Kelly
He’s more Bergman like to me. Very rigid actions well honed. Stud for sure.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:42 am to lsufball19
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That doesn’t make it technically false
I mean it does, the bat and ball standards have not changed since Duplantis was here.
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The ball standards in MLB, for instance, have remained unchanged for a long time. However, scientific studies have proven wide ranges of exit velos over the years with the “same” baseballs.
Players haven’t magically gotten that much better hitting a baseball the last 5 years for home runs to have exploded like they have across the country.
All speculation in terms of college, nobody can really know the true impact of any silent/micro changes they've made. We have no idea how much the impact of any changes to the bat or ball have from 6-9 years ago to now vs. how much impact philosophy changes (this meaning a program like Tennessee going from a small ball coach like Dave Serrano to a gorilla ball coach they have now) or talent has had. It could be 20/80, it could be 80/20. No way to really know. Just saying the technical standards were exactly the same for Duplantis as they are Curiel. What we know has without any doubt definitely changed is college baseball is significantly more talented now than 6-9 years ago. Hitters have gotten better, pitchers are throwing harder and overall just more talent in college now than 2016-2019 and some of that is the talent skipping out on the draft from high school/juco because of NIL now but another part of that is the floor of talent is seemingly higher when we have teams from North Dakota getting freshman lefty arms throwing 91-92 with plus breaking pitches. That was a pipe dream 6-9 years ago even.
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Why not?
Really? Why would you not compare like seasons considering Duplantis was also a freshman at one point? It took Duplantis 4 years in college to have more than 2 home runs in a season. Why compare his very last season to Curiel's first and not his first season also?
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 9:57 am
Posted on 3/6/25 at 10:10 am to thunderbird1100
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Really? Why would you not compare like seasons considering Duplantis was also a freshman at one point? It took Duplantis 4 years in college to have more than 2 home runs in a season. Why compare his very last season to Curiel's first and not his first season also?
Yes really. What I know is Duplantis developed power. What i don't know is whether or not Curiel will. People always said Tre Morgan would, but he never really did despite seemingly having the frame and tools to hit for power. What you are doing is assuming Curiel will and saying, based on speculation of how he will develop, he has better pop than Duplantis did. As of now, he doesn't. I know this because I've seen Duplantis hit for power. I haven't seen Cureil do it. Make more sense now?
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All speculation in terms of college
but it's not. There are youtube videos you can find of guys taking different baseball from each year and different bats used over the years and taking pitches from a machine. Despite the "standards" being the same, the exit velos, carry, etc. are definitely hotter now. Why? Your argument about player talent disparities is irrelevant. We're talking about a controlled environment with the variable being the bats/balls. The newer bats/balls make the baseball go further and at a higher velocity off the bat.
I don't have 2024 numbers but here is how quickly home runs numbers have gone up
2023: 16,649 HRs (2.25 per game)
2022: 14,452 HRs (1.99 per game)
2021: 10,744 HRs (1.71 per game)
2019: 10,630 HRs (1.46 per game)
I would imagine 2024 numbers were even better. We're approaching a full home run per game more in just 6 years. That cannot be explained away by some more talent not signing in the draft. There aren't enough players not signing that would have prior when you spread them around the country.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 10:18 am
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:13 pm to PP7 for heisman
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isn't Swedish
Duplantis isn't a Swedish name. It's French. Mondo Dupantis has a French Last name because his Dad is from South Louisiana. His mom I believe is Swedish. Both parents went to LSU.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:19 pm to Cryin Kelly
Curiel is hitting over 100 points higher than Duplantis did in his best year. The 2 aren't comparable. Duplantis is far inferior compared to Curiel. Duplantis was a lunch pale guy that turned out to outperform that title, but having an MLB at bat was never in his future. Curiel is expected to get an MLB at bat. There is a massive difference between a player expected to get an MLB at bat vs one you don't expect to.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:30 pm to Saunson69
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Curiel is hitting over 100 points higher than Duplantis did in his best year. The 2 aren't comparable. Duplantis is far inferior compared to Curiel. Duplantis was a lunch pale guy that turned out to outperform that title, but having an MLB at bat was never in his future. Curiel is expected to get an MLB at bat. There is a massive difference between a player expected to get an MLB at bat vs one you don't expect to.
I mean…it’s a bit premature to say that the LSU all-time leader in hits is inferior to a talented freshman who has played 14 non-SEC games. Obviously he’s projected to be a better all-around player at the current and next level, and he’s living up to it so far, but maybe we should let things play out before setting things in stone and discounting one of the most accomplished LSU careers.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:34 pm to Saunson69
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Duplantis is far inferior compared to Curiel.
The #2 all time hit leader in SEC baseball history is not far inferior to anyone. 
Posted on 3/6/25 at 2:03 pm to Saunson69
It was a joke lol
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