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re: It'll only take ONE game to know what we're in for with Harris.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:53 pm to Nix to Twillie
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:53 pm to Nix to Twillie
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If we're ultra conservative against UW it'll be a clear cut sign that BH hasn't turned the corner, and it could be another frustrating year. Even if he's 10-12 passing, only 12 attempts will be very telling.
Disagree.
If the running game is working there is absolutely no need to air it out.
Which is why he threw for less than 100 against State and Auburn..
After all.... "Three Things Can Happen When You Pass and Two of Them Are Bad"
If he's 10-12 the only thing it will be an indicator of is that his accuracy issues are completely gone, and we'll be able to spread it out when the run game is slowed down.
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:00 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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We ran to the outside the entire 2nd half of the bama game last year.
This tells me you did not watch the game. please go back and watch it. jesus murphy. we did nothing i listed above. no jet sweeps, toss sweeps or speed options. please do not tell me you are counting that ONE PLAY where LF bounced it off tackle as a whole half of horizontal stretches.
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We most certainly ran more than 3 pass plays in 2012. Do you really believe we ran the same 3 pass plays 80% of the time in 2012?
again go back and watch the games. The majority of all mett's throws were curls, comebacks and maybe slants or sluggos. my percentage may be a little off but it appeared that way majority of the time. miles has never used middle of field since lee in 2008. this is fact. i sure never saw many corners, outs, or posts either. I'm sure he threw in some go/streaks also but i'm just commenting on the main 3 or 4 we saw the majority of the time that whole year.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:02 pm to tgerb8
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If he's 10-12 the only thing it will be an indicator of is that his accuracy issues are completely gone, and we'll be able to spread it out when the run game is slowed down.
Yep. If our offense stays exactly the same as last year except we have an efficient passing attack then we will be a force to be reckon with on offense. You give LF and Guice a passing attack that doesnt allow safeties to peak into the back field and we are gonnd steam roll some people.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:22 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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When youre up you try to shorten the game. You certainly dont throw a bunch to stop the clock on incompletions. Throwing the ball up 2 scores is a one of the easiest ways to let a team back in it.
True. But we do it too much. You have to mix some first down passing in. I think our coaches know this; they just have not been confident in the QBs the last two years.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:25 pm to Nix to Twillie
Wrong, it will take only 1 half. Wisconsin will load the box and dare LSU to throw. If we do not, you can bet your sweet arse we will be in for a long, frustrating season.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:30 pm to Penrod
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True. But we do it too much. You have to mix some first down passing in. I think our coaches know this; they just have not been confident in the QBs the last two years.
I think Mayhaw has the 1st down passing numbers. If i remember correctly our 1st down passing instances werent as infrequent as youd think. But yeah i think everyone can agree that we need balance to start bucking the Miles trend of obvious run and pass plays.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:37 pm to LSUfanNkaty
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in the second quarter, LSU had the ball and was driving. Tigers were already up 29-0.
in my confections, I let Wisconsin have a couple of FGs a quarter.
LSU 70 Wisconsin 18.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:38 pm to SportTiger1
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The whole offense is now based around throws that CAN'T be picked off.
The offense will take chances when they have a QB under center who they can trust to make the proper reads. Yeah these throws that can't be picked.
Right down the seam
Right down the seam again
I don't care what level of football you discussing, when you have an inexperienced quarterback, you aren't going to ask them to add more on their plate when they are already having problems absorbing just the general information of the playbook as well as their reads & responsibilities pertaining to fronts & coverages. When you try to overload a QB who isn't ready for an expansion of the playbook, you get Jamie Howard & Jarrett Lee (2008) type performances.
People tend to forget Harris admitted to struggling learning the playbook his freshman year. It's a lot of info for a freshman to absorb. Then when they dumbed down the play calling for his start at Auburn, fans complained about the play calling being too conservative. Well trying to go wide open wouldn't have been much successful either. Not for his first start on the road in the SEC.
Fast forward to last fall camp. Harris has no Cam Cameron in his key preparation prior to the season as Cam is coaching from an ipad while undergoing treatments in Baltimore for prostate cancer. That caused question marks as to how far Harris had developed & what he could handle hence the conservative play calling to start last season.
In the present, Harris now is in his 3rd year on campus. With time & reps, the chances he is more comfortable in the system are extremely high. He has Cam there in person helping prepare for the start of the season. One of the biggest overlooked factors when discussing the growth of Brandon is that he now has tons of experience around him at the skill positions. Every bad play isn't always the fault of the quarterback. More experience around him, should mean less mental errors from those skill position players.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:39 pm to Fat Bastard
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back and watch it. jesus murphy. we did nothing i listed above. no jet sweeps, toss sweeps or speed options. please do not tell me you are counting that ONE PLAY where LF bounced it off tackle as a whole half of horizontal stretches.
You most certainly didnt watch the damn game if you think we ran up the middle the 2nd half.
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again go back and watch the games. The majority of all mett's throws were curls, comebacks and maybe slants or sluggos
And the 9 route. We run a pro style passing tree. You have no clue how many types of passing plays we ran in 2012. Whats really laughable is we run far bigger variation of pass and run plays than all these high flying spread teams. It amazes me the people on here that try to talk about what the hell our wrs did without seeing the all 22. You may be able to pass that bs off to someone that doesnt know shite but im not him. You have no clue what the hell youre talking about if you think we ran 3 passing plays 80% of the time in 2012 .
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i sure never saw many corners, outs, or posts eithe
Holy shite. Are you really gonna sit here and say we didnt run out routes or post routes?
Have you ever seen an all 22 film of lsu in 2012? If not then you have no idea if any of this is true or not. OBJr bread and butter was the out route. Youre right about not using the inside of the field much but that in no way takes away post and quick slants.
The only route we didnt really have many completions with is the 6 route.
We threw the corner route damn near anytime we threw the ball deep in the red zone. The corner route is Miles' bread and butter in the red zone.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:40 pm to Rickdaddy4188
If we are up 21 against teams we should best handily then yes, let the rbs take over. One of Sabans biggest mistakes was leaving Mauck in against FLA with a huge lead late in the game and he got hurt and it ruined a very promising season.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:47 pm to dukke v
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If we are up 21 against teams we should best handily then yes, let the rbs take over. One of Sabans biggest mistakes was leaving Mauck in against FLA with a huge lead late in the game and he got hurt and it ruined a very promising season.
Agreed. If we lose more than 1 game are ready for a change?
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:49 pm to Fat Bastard
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:50 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Depends on who we lose to and how.... If we lose to Bama, oh well... As long as it isn't a blowout like last year. Losing to FLA would suck, but they are a decent team. I could deal with two losses as long as none of them don't look like the three we lost last year.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:50 pm to BigBrod81
what i meant by middle of the field was crossing routes, ins/digs, etc. we threw those and they were picked off with Lee in 2008.
miles shut that down quickly. i wasn't referring to streaks, seams, or posts. but people here who watched in 2008 up until now knew what i was referring to.
miles shut that down quickly. i wasn't referring to streaks, seams, or posts. but people here who watched in 2008 up until now knew what i was referring to.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:53 pm to Fat Bastard
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what i meant by middle of the field was crossing routes, ins/digs, etc. we threw those and they were picked off with Lee in 2008.
Agreed. He has been scared shitless of crossing and dig routes since 2008.
Neither you nor i know what routes pur wrs are running unless we see the all 22 film.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:01 pm to dukke v
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Depends on who we lose to and how.... If we lose to Bama, oh well... As long as it isn't a blowout like last year. Losing to FLA would suck, but they are a decent team. I could deal with two losses as long as none of them don't look like the three we lost l
Barring an injury to Harris,2 losses and ill be upset. If we cant lose less than 2 games this year then when?
There are no excuses this year.
1. returning starter with the same offensive scheme.
2. Nfl draft hasnt gutted us
3. We return the most starters off a team that won 10 games last year.
4. We have a wonderful dc that routinely fields great defenses with 1/3 the talent he will have at lsu.
5. If not this year then when? Bama will be a fricking monster next year with the last 3 classes theyve pulled in
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Im pretty sure youve said Miles never changes the game plan( i could be wrong. As you inow i respond to literally every post) but now youre saying he does change it but just at the dumbest possible time?
Yeah i've definitely never said that. I classify myself as a semi-pro-miles posi-tiger with a hint of 'damn we suck sometimes'.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:03 pm to SportTiger1
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Yeah i've definitely never said that. I classify myself as a semi-pro-miles posi-tiger with a hint of 'damn we suck sometimes'.
Hey i gave myself an out.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:04 pm to Rickdaddy4188
You can have all the talent you want but it still takes slot of the ball bouncing the right wsy for a team to go through a season with just one loss.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:07 pm to Nix to Twillie
Les has to get Leonard the Heisman. Harris throwing the ball accurately to Fournette some could make the Heisman happen and also make Harris look good.
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