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It'll only take ONE game to know what we're in for with Harris.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 7:10 am
Posted on 8/30/16 at 7:10 am
We started last season with back to back games with less than 100 yards passing and the thought was that we were grooming Harris and would open up the offense as the season went on. To the credit of the coaches they tried to do just that but it would have never been their approach had they trusted BH from the beginning.
If we're ultra conservative against UW it'll be a clear cut sign that BH hasn't turned the corner, and it could be another frustrating year. Even if he's 10-12 passing, only 12 attempts will be very telling. We'll know after one game.
FWIW I have faith we'll see a balanced offense--and that doesn't mean we won't see the toss dive. There will still be lots and lots of toss dives.
If we're ultra conservative against UW it'll be a clear cut sign that BH hasn't turned the corner, and it could be another frustrating year. Even if he's 10-12 passing, only 12 attempts will be very telling. We'll know after one game.
FWIW I have faith we'll see a balanced offense--and that doesn't mean we won't see the toss dive. There will still be lots and lots of toss dives.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 7:13 am to Nix to Twillie
Losing that first game kind of screwed up Harris early, IMO. He had to start the season against on the road against a decent state team. Les and them didn't want to break him like that
The next game was auburn. He didn't need to throw once
The next game was auburn. He didn't need to throw once
Posted on 8/30/16 at 7:26 am to Dire Wolf
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Losing that first game kind of screwed up Harris early, IMO
Good point.
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Les and them didn't want to break him like that
See, this is what I don't quite buy. If they trusted in their QB more I don't think they'd have had a problem breaking him in like that.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 7:33 am to Nix to Twillie
I understand saving a few trick plays for Alabama and Arkansas, but we gotta run all our plays so he can execute them in the bigger games. Les can't will till November to practice passing or only having 80 yards passing on eastern Michigan's shutdown secondary.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 7:36 am
Posted on 8/30/16 at 7:40 am to Nix to Twillie
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Even if he's 10-12 passing, only 12 attempts will be very telling.
No. So if Harris has an 83% completion percentage against a good power 5 team, it's going to be "telling" in a negative way? If Harris goes 10-12, it will mean we won by 3 or more touchdowns.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 7:44 am to Nix to Twillie
Well I certainly don't see a reason to "ease" Harris into this.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:28 am to Nix to Twillie
I agree that we will know after this game. If we see same as last year people will be making one excuse after the other but we all know deep down that it could be a frustrating year.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:32 am to Nix to Twillie
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If we're ultra conservative against UW it'll be a clear cut sign that BH hasn't turned the corner,
Define conservative.
If by that you mean running a lot it could be that we have a Heisman contending running back and the ground game is working against an inferior defense.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:32 am to Nix to Twillie
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It'll only take ONE game to know what we're in for with Harris.
Baw that's not an intelligent comment. This is what is wrong with some LSU fans.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 8:34 am
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:33 am to Nix to Twillie
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If we're ultra conservative against UW it'll be a clear cut sign that BH hasn't turned the corner,
What if we are ultra conservative with Harris, but win by double digits?
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:37 am to Nix to Twillie
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See, this is what I don't quite buy. If they trusted in their QB more I don't think they'd have had a problem breaking him in like that.
When are we going to stop blaming the personnel and realize it is a lack of faith Miles has in passing generally, and the lack of development of QBs in particular. Give Harris to Jimbo Fisher or Clemson and he would have progressed much more than he has under the Les Miles regime.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:38 am to Nix to Twillie
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If we're ultra conservative against UW it'll be a clear cut sign that
Nothing has changed and Les Miles is going to keep everything close to the vest. Should be good enough to win 8-9, maybe 10 games during the regular season. This is not a Brandon Harris problem, this is an offensive scheme problem. You have a QB that is a threat to run, put him in a position to utilize that threat, don't neutralize it by putting him in a 2TE, I-formation set.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:39 am to Nix to Twillie
I just don't understand why AJ didn't get some reps if the story really goes that BH got hurt. Is that too much pride from the QB or a staff too stubborn?
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:39 am to Nix to Twillie
the responders are being too picky here. The OP is basically correct - Wisconsin had a very good defense last year and probably will again this year. We're athletically superior but the Badgers won't be a pushover. Highly doubtful we can just line up and pound them into submission.
So all the OP is saying is that Wisconsin is a perfect looking glass into Les' offensive philosophy this year, as compared to if we were playing a cupcake.
So all the OP is saying is that Wisconsin is a perfect looking glass into Les' offensive philosophy this year, as compared to if we were playing a cupcake.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:40 am to TigahFan1010
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Baw that's not an intelligent comment. This is what is wrong with some LSU fans.
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Baw that's not an intelligent comment. This is what is wrong with some LSU fans.
Please explain. Did you not see me explain?
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:41 am to TIGRLEE
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Well I certainly don't see a reason to "ease" Harris into this.
Of course you don't. My God! you have returned to the scene of the crime. And right off the bat start you hate against "dual threat" QBs. I thought, based on your previous racist postings, you had been banned for life. Unwelcome back. I guess BRAVEHEART will return next.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:43 am to pwejr88
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Define conservative.
Less than 100 Yds passing conservative.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:46 am to Nix to Twillie
Its not about the number of throws, it's about the efficiency. Harris main job is to keep the chains moving, convert the 3rd and 8 to 3rd and 4, either with the pass or scrambling to keep the drive alive.
That's what made e 2013 offense so good is we just about led the nation in 3rd down conversions. Mett always found Jarvis for 6, 7, 8 yrds to convert.
Consequently this kept the defense off the field and well rested.
We typically only run between 65-75 plays a game. You know fournette is getting 20+ touches, Guice should get around 10-12, That's almost half your offensive snaps. Harris needs to be around 15-25 for 60% completion percentage.
If we are slining it more than 30 times a game, then we are probably behind in the game
That's what made e 2013 offense so good is we just about led the nation in 3rd down conversions. Mett always found Jarvis for 6, 7, 8 yrds to convert.
Consequently this kept the defense off the field and well rested.
We typically only run between 65-75 plays a game. You know fournette is getting 20+ touches, Guice should get around 10-12, That's almost half your offensive snaps. Harris needs to be around 15-25 for 60% completion percentage.
If we are slining it more than 30 times a game, then we are probably behind in the game
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:46 am to Nix to Twillie
This will be the breakout year for Brandon. Book it!
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