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re: It wasn’t effing lightning in a bottle!

Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:10 am to
Posted by Jimmie the Geek
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
1150 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:10 am to
It was obviously player improvement from 2018 to 2019 and key players NOT declaring as juniors last year as much as anything. That has been an issue in the past.
Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
4154 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:12 am to
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You’re right. Let’s just destroy every friggin thread on Tiger Droppings and put a banner up on the entire page that says 2019 national champions. That way we don’t have to talk about anything.


I know and I wasn’t trying to be critical of OP. I’m just happy that I don’t care what anyone in media calls this season. The high from this season could last me years!
Posted by Silvermoon_WhereRU
Member since Jun 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:13 am to
After 2007 championship the whole negative spin was “Sabans players”. Then Les continued to recruit and built up to the 2011 season. Sustained success requires the ability to recruit elite coordinators and Orgeron has already proven he can do that. Woodward is going to pay $$ and we will be quick to reset the narrative when we have a 10 win season next year.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:14 am to
The only way to silence them is to keep winning. Go 8-4 next year and we are 2010 Auburn.
Posted by TigerNutwhack
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
4201 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:14 am to
It's not fair to say that when talking about winning the NC. The LSU program has been more than capable of putting together a title run for two decades, just like several other programs, they just had to do it.

Now, if talking about the offensive performance I think it's ok to say it. This was the greatest offense any of us have ever seen in college and are likely to see, and the right pieces had to come together at the right time to get it done. We could have the second greatest offense in school history next year and still score 200 less points than this year.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11859 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:15 am to
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It was obviously player improvement from 2018 to 2019 and key players NOT declaring as juniors last year as much as anything. That has been an issue in the past.

This can’t be overstated in my opinion. Specifically in the DL. Defensive line depth and experience was a strength this year, but it very easily could have been a weakness if Lawrence and Fehoko had left.
Posted by bod312
Member since Jul 2015
846 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:15 am to
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Sustained success requires the ability to recruit elite coordinators and Orgeron has already proven he can do that


But has he?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165127 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:17 am to
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It’s not false. Players improving from year to year is pretty much a given on every team in the country. The scheme is what put this team over the top and resulted in the season they had. If you disagree with that, you’re just trying to be some contrarian dick.

The scheme put us over the top

My point is that same scheme in 2018 doesn't get us a national championship because the players weren't at their peak yet

Has nothing to do with being a contrarian dick. I'm giving credit to all of the players who improved as well as the scheme.
Posted by kennesawlsu
Member since Jan 2013
515 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:19 am to
Ahhh damn! That just means we won't take the foot off of the gas in the 3rd qtr, when we're up 52-14
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28773 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:20 am to
Why do y'all worry so much about what the media says? frick them. Just ignore them.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165127 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:21 am to
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But has he?

We only have a 3 year sample size to work with and he retained Aranda

I don't think Ensminger was bad in 2018. Burrow was in his first year starting and the starting WRs were not firmly established at that point. And the offensive line wasn't quite ready.

Posted by Silvermoon_WhereRU
Member since Jun 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:23 am to
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But has he?

I’d say yes absolutely. Canada was the hot item and he brought him in. Then dumped him when it wasn’t a good fit, hires Ensminger which was a huge risk and it paid off exponentially. Ensminger was the right hire because he wasn’t so egotistical not let Orgeron bring in Joe Brady last offseason.

For as “hands off” as Orgeron is, he also clearly demands improvement and accountability and rightfully so. We weren’t evolving offensively and we hadn’t recruited elite QBs so he brought Brady in and brought Burrow in.

Literally EVERY other program in the country could have went after both those guys. He also did what needed to be done to retain Aranda and keep him away from A&M and Texas when they both pursued him.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
10909 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:23 am to
It is because this has only happened once every 60 years for us. I guess they equate that to the frequency of lightning strikes. I don't think they mean championship, I think they mean perfection.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131112 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:24 am to
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Who is saying this?
I have the same question.

As far as I know, the answer is no one . . . . except for maybe a handful of Clemson nitwit posters.
Posted by bod312
Member since Jul 2015
846 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:24 am to
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quote:


But has he?

We only have a 3 year sample size to work with and he retained Aranda

I don't think Ensminger was bad in 2018. Burrow was in his first year starting and the starting WRs were not firmly established at that point. And the offensive line wasn't quite ready.



He has hired 2 coordinators: Canada and Ensminger.

Canada should speak for itself. It might have worked but O never gave Canada control so it failed.

Ensminger without Brady was not good. In his 2 games without Brady against Bama (both in Tiger Stadium) his offense scored a combined 0 points. Ensminger with Brady scored 45 in 1 game at Bama.

Hopefully Ensminger keeps the same or similar concept and schemes and all but only time will tell.

Coach O has absolutely not proven he can recruit elite coordinators but hopefully he starts with this DC hire.
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17725 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:26 am to
The best season ever and you think we can sustain that?

You frickers are nuts

If that’s your expectation year and year out prepared to be let down
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165127 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:26 am to
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Coach O has absolutely not proven he can recruit elite coordinators

Well with Brady that's not entirely true

I do think that he now has instant credibility. It's just a matter of him choosing the right guys.
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17725 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:27 am to
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Are they saying winning a title was lightning in a bottle or basically having the best offense in history was lightning in a bottle? Because we did a lot of shite that’s never been done before by anyone let alone LSU. In a sense that is lightning in a bottle.


This

Idiots take what people say way out of proportion and make it a big deal when it’s really not
Posted by bod312
Member since Jul 2015
846 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:28 am to
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quote:
Coach O has absolutely not proven he can recruit elite coordinators

Well with Brady that's not entirely true

I do think that he now has instant credibility. It's just a matter of him choosing the right guys.


I was considering Offensive and Defensive Coordinators and not assistants. Joe Brady was obviously a slam dunk but that was very different than hiring an OC or DC. Brady was small risk because of the position and salary and all of that. OC and DC are a different ball games due to the level you are hiring.
Posted by FootballGuru
louisiana
Member since Oct 2010
78 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:28 am to
Fake news
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