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It all starts with the QB
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:40 am
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:40 am
Harris simply is not the answer. He can't read a defense and has trouble going thru his progression when his primary receiver is covered. He holds the ball far too long and simply refuses to throw the ball away when he should so he takes unnecessary sacks.
Harris also has virtually no touch on the ball and cant throw short routes to even STATIONARY RECEIVERS. We can talk all we want about other aspects of the game but when the LSU offense can't move the ball it puts more and more pressure on a LSU defense which has depth issues at DL and LB. I personally don't see any improvement at QB coming with Harris. There are so many problems with Harris that I honestly would try Jennings. At least Jennings can run
Harris also has virtually no touch on the ball and cant throw short routes to even STATIONARY RECEIVERS. We can talk all we want about other aspects of the game but when the LSU offense can't move the ball it puts more and more pressure on a LSU defense which has depth issues at DL and LB. I personally don't see any improvement at QB coming with Harris. There are so many problems with Harris that I honestly would try Jennings. At least Jennings can run
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Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:41 am to STRIPES
Jennings isn't the answer. I get it though, they are both below average SEC qbs.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:41 am to STRIPES
quote:
It all starts with the
..shitty offensive approach. Play decent defenses with decent talent, get eaten alive. When the other team knows your plays by formation and personnel, your talent better be overwhelming. If not, see November for LSU.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:43 am to STRIPES
It starts with the guy that recruited the best QB in the SEC to be a frickin' fullback,who just happens to be from LA
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:43 am to STRIPES
No it starts up front and our offensive line has the potential to be the best in college football but there very weak which is a reflection off of our coach. Theres a reason why brandon got offers from alabama and. If he played for alabama I know damn well he would be coached up to be a great quarterback. Its the coaches fault not brandons.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:43 am to STRIPES
Are u fa real??? Seriously are u fa real? Did u not watch the oline get whipped all night long. Jennings can run lmao!
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:43 am to STRIPES
quote:Do me a favor and look at Jennings stats form last year and compare them to Harris this season. I think people forgot how bad Jennings was..
There are so many problems with Harris that I honestly would try Jennings. At least Jennings can run
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:49 am to STRIPES
Harris is the answer ! More talent than most QB. Probably would be more successful early in other systems. But that does not equal winning games.
He is getting better. And when not pressured he is phenomenal .
How many underclassmen as the starting QB have won the SEC since Tommy Hodson did it .
It takes time now to develop and understand what's going on and feel when to get rid of the ball in this league.
Our program is suffering the last two years because of poor recruiting of QB position . What would LSU look like last year and this year with junior and senior Dak
Let's let's this young man develop into the extraordinary junior and senior he will be .
And let's develop the next QB to be a starter when they are junior or RS soph .
He is getting better. And when not pressured he is phenomenal .
How many underclassmen as the starting QB have won the SEC since Tommy Hodson did it .
It takes time now to develop and understand what's going on and feel when to get rid of the ball in this league.
Our program is suffering the last two years because of poor recruiting of QB position . What would LSU look like last year and this year with junior and senior Dak
Let's let's this young man develop into the extraordinary junior and senior he will be .
And let's develop the next QB to be a starter when they are junior or RS soph .
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:49 am to STRIPES
1. Brandon Harris was a successful HS QB. He was a very highly-rated recruit.
2. The coaches decide who they are going to recruit, and who they ultimately are going to sign to scholarships.
3. This offensive scheme is not suited to Harris. If we're wedded to this offense, recruit big, strong-armed pocket passers, not mobile ("dual-threat") QBs more suited to a spread offense.
4. If Harris had signed with Auburn, he would have been successful in that offense, and Auburn would probably be a lot better off than they are now.
5. Did I mention that the COACHES PICK THE PLAYERS THEY WANT TO RECRUIT??!! If you think Harris, and Jennings, stink, then who is to blame?
6. BTW, I DON'T think either stinks, I just think they're in the wrong scheme. Does LSU just have the rotten luck of recruiting and signing QBs who suck, OR is it more likely the problem is with the coaching, gameplan, scheme?
But in the final analysis, if you think Harris and Jennings are subpar, well, who recruited them?
2. The coaches decide who they are going to recruit, and who they ultimately are going to sign to scholarships.
3. This offensive scheme is not suited to Harris. If we're wedded to this offense, recruit big, strong-armed pocket passers, not mobile ("dual-threat") QBs more suited to a spread offense.
4. If Harris had signed with Auburn, he would have been successful in that offense, and Auburn would probably be a lot better off than they are now.
5. Did I mention that the COACHES PICK THE PLAYERS THEY WANT TO RECRUIT??!! If you think Harris, and Jennings, stink, then who is to blame?
6. BTW, I DON'T think either stinks, I just think they're in the wrong scheme. Does LSU just have the rotten luck of recruiting and signing QBs who suck, OR is it more likely the problem is with the coaching, gameplan, scheme?
But in the final analysis, if you think Harris and Jennings are subpar, well, who recruited them?
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:50 am to STRIPES
I'm going to say this in the nicest way possible, you are lost if you think this rests at anyone's feet other than Miles.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:50 am to tgr4ever
Main problem I saw last night was, Harris lined up in shotgun with three wide, takes the snap and drops back two steps from there (about 5-6 yards behind line of scrimmage) and has d lineman on him in literally two seconds. How is he supposed to look off primary WR with NO pass protection? They have gotten whipped two weeks in a row
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:51 am to tgr4ever
quote:
Do me a favor and look at Jennings stats form last year and compare them to Harris this season. I think people forgot how bad Jennings was..
Harris' are better. But they aren't remarkably better.
Yet again, here we are. Another QB who "just isn't good enough". Eventually one has to think, maybe it isn't that 5 different people have just been bad? Maybe it's one person that's not putting them in a position to succeed?
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:53 am to STRIPES
Tom Brady wouldn't be effective behind that pathetic offensive line.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:03 am to Pmtiger
quote:
Harris is the answer ! More talent than most QB. Probably would be more successful early in other systems. But that does not equal winning games.
He is getting better. And when not pressured he is phenomenal .
How many underclassmen as the starting QB have won the SEC since Tommy Hodson did it .
It takes time now to develop and understand what's going on and feel when to get rid of the ball in this league.
Our program is suffering the last two years because of poor recruiting of QB position . What would LSU look like last year and this year with junior and senior Dak
Let's let's this young man develop into the extraordinary junior and senior he will be .
And let's develop the next QB to be a starter when they are junior or RS soph .
You do realize that 4 of the last 6 SEC champions had first year starters at QB with little to no prior SEC experience? One team, a team that never seems to have to use the "we are young" excuse, won the National Title with a first year starting QB. You might remember that one, it happened in the 2011 season. And before that, in the 2009 season
In fact, a team with a first year starting QB has won the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP 5 of the last 6 years.
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 11:05 am
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:05 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
This ultimately is the fault of Miles. BH is not the answer and neither is Jennings. Name one team in this country either of them would start for. Harris is as clueless as they come. He has no touch and can only throw long. He is inaccurate as they come on the easy passes. Some of his best completions last night should have been interceptions. He should have had 3 interceptions last night. He can't read the defense at all...not even close. I honestly can say that Jennings ran the ball better in the last few games of the year last year than Harris has this year. I was a huge Harris supporter but it is painfully obvious he is terrible. Another year of crappy qb play and the head coach is to blame. The entire team knows what is happening just like the fans. Opposing teams are playing LF knowing BH is terrible plain and simple. Check with me deer in headlights look. Squinting and stalling because he doesn't have a clue. This is the Head coaches fault for allowing this situation to occur 7 out of the last 8 years not BH's.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:05 am to STRIPES
We need a QB with good cognitive skills. We've had a certain "type" of QB for a few years and I don't think that is the answer.
Whatever
Whatever
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:05 am to STRIPES
He was sacked 5 fricking times last night. 5
And running for his life at least twice that many. You idiots can try to put this and the Bama loss on him if you want but our offensive line is truly offensive. Our coaches had the team completely unprepared for both games.
You can't blame the deficiencies on defense on lack of depth because they ran it down our throats in the 1st qtr and got better at it as they went. Steele has 3 LB's playing so close to the line there's no chance they can defend the run or stop a pass to the TE. This loss as well as the Alabama loss is 100% on the coaches and if you think otherwise you are just fooling yourself.
And running for his life at least twice that many. You idiots can try to put this and the Bama loss on him if you want but our offensive line is truly offensive. Our coaches had the team completely unprepared for both games.
You can't blame the deficiencies on defense on lack of depth because they ran it down our throats in the 1st qtr and got better at it as they went. Steele has 3 LB's playing so close to the line there's no chance they can defend the run or stop a pass to the TE. This loss as well as the Alabama loss is 100% on the coaches and if you think otherwise you are just fooling yourself.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:07 am to MBclass83
quote:
We've had a certain "type" of QB for a few years and I don't think that is the answer.
Wow
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:10 am to STRIPES
i can't write off harris due to the restrictions (and coaching accordingly) he's been given
oh he can't read the whole field? well our offense doesn't work that way
and we don't work on a short passing game so i can totally imagine why he has issues throwing short
oh he can't read the whole field? well our offense doesn't work that way
and we don't work on a short passing game so i can totally imagine why he has issues throwing short
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:11 am to Scoop
First offensive play of the game. Harris underthrows a wide open receiver so badly he hits a DB in the back.
Harris repeatedly threw behind receivers, too high, missed a wide open receiver who was standing still all of ten yards away, fumbled after holding the ball far too long a getting hit while finally trying to throw the ball away and set up an Arkie TD (even announcers criticized this), almost got Dupre crucified by throwing an inaccurate 8 yard pass. Many of the completions are just good catches of poorly thrown balls.
Ultimately, there is far enough blame to go around but if you have a QB who can't run the offense (and he can't) then nothing else matters, especially considering that LSUs offense is not complex.
I know that many of you may not agree but there is a reason that other head coaches say they want #6 to show he can beat them and they scheme for just that. Bieliema said
as much last night. Believe what you want but I know what I see.
Harris repeatedly threw behind receivers, too high, missed a wide open receiver who was standing still all of ten yards away, fumbled after holding the ball far too long a getting hit while finally trying to throw the ball away and set up an Arkie TD (even announcers criticized this), almost got Dupre crucified by throwing an inaccurate 8 yard pass. Many of the completions are just good catches of poorly thrown balls.
Ultimately, there is far enough blame to go around but if you have a QB who can't run the offense (and he can't) then nothing else matters, especially considering that LSUs offense is not complex.
I know that many of you may not agree but there is a reason that other head coaches say they want #6 to show he can beat them and they scheme for just that. Bieliema said
as much last night. Believe what you want but I know what I see.
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 11:15 am
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