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re: It all goes back to poor OL play and no run game

Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:21 am to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65704 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:21 am to
It’s really puzzling how bad it’s been and adding a guy didn’t do anything for us. I still think we have a design flaw, we’re too spread to block the box with 5 or 6. Our TEs don’t block at all, the play when Green was called for holding he and Sharpe were double teaming a slot corner and couldn’t move him. This offense is very old and very vanilla.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33110 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:22 am to
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isn’t coached well
- Offensive design doesn’t allow you to block the box
- Play Calling is as bad as I’ve ever seen (and I witnessed Carl Smith of the New Orleans Saints)


This is what I don't get about the design. It's like they can't even check into an easy run against a 5 man box.

I absolutely hate the scheme. There is no misdirection. Sloan doesn't set anything up. The o line can't block. Nuss sucks against any kind of pressure

It really does hurt having a qb that can't escape or step up any.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29164 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:23 am to
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However the OL cant move anyone (see last week vs SeLa) and we can’t establish the run. We aren’t physical. BK’s teams here just aren’t physical (see 3rd and less than 1).


I mean it was pretty damn clear last year there was coaching issues. Anyone recall any other offensive lines with 4 NFL players on it that sucked that bad? Will Campbell looks just fine run blocking this yr.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
32641 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:24 am to
I’ll be honest, it’s a Christmas miracle we are even entertaining being a contender this year. Had Austin Thomas not saved the fricking program with the portal and fundraising this team would seriously be 4-8 this season.

I genuinely wonder what the actual frick brian Kelly does. He came into the season peacocking about this offense
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
83469 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:24 am to
Correct. Last year's line full of draft picks and this year's bunch look exactly the same when it comes to run plays. They all get zero push and get stood up/driven back. The coaching is pathetic.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65704 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:26 am to
On its face this offense is throw heavy based on the formations we use. Most of your modern spreads have taken after the Meyer model where you’re turning older offenses into SG so most of those traditional principals and schemes remain. Kelly’s style is more of the first gen spread on the conservative side. A lot like Clemson’s for example which doesn’t lend itself to a lot of versatility. It’s an old, stock spread offense, it’s easy to defend.
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 12:29 am
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
32641 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:30 am to
I wish I could be a fly on the wall listening to Lane Kiffin and Pete Golding roast this scheme.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65704 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:31 am to
It’s a shame what we’ve looked like the last 2 years. Kelly needs to hire someone he can trust and let him do his thing. We need to get away from Kelly’s offense.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65704 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:32 am to
You heard Kiffin right after the game and in the press conf. He talked about how good our players are. He’s telling you our coach sucks without saying it verbatim.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
32641 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:37 am to
It’s true. Even my level headed ole miss friends felt Lane Kiffin would have beaten ole miss bf 14-17 points with our personnel.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65704 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:41 am to
DCs have learned how to defend most spread offenses. The last couple years they’ve made a big jump in defending even the best ones. Ours is ancient relative to most so they’ve got us dead to rights outside of our talent advantages.
Posted by swagsurfin7
Founder of the Alex Morgan Fan Club
Member since Dec 2009
7288 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 3:03 am to
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It all goes back to poor OL play and no run game


We've had poor OL play/run game for the entirety of Kelly's tenure.

Jayden just masked the inefficiencies.
Posted by js1591
Member since Jan 2020
2779 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 3:24 am to
Or it may be that our QB sucks.
Posted by VL Lsutiger
Gonzales
Member since Sep 2006
3232 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 3:30 am to
Every team ole miss has played they have given up damn near 170 yards or more rushing ...and they have have played some crappy teams..its definitely scheme and coaching
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1845 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 3:53 am to
La Tech has a better o line than LSU……it’s pathetic that we can’t get good linemen…..who is evaluating the o line talent…..they need to be fired….
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1845 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 4:15 am to
Yeah. But a bad o line can get a qb hurt and the injury can hurt his mechanics….
Posted by ellis197575
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2014
1413 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 4:40 am to
Here's the thing about Nuss's performance. We fans don't know if Nuss is truly hurt or to what extent. However, the staff and Nuss do! Therefore if he struggles passing the ball, the play calling HAS to be more balanced with running the ball. Also, Nuss knows what passes he can make and the ones he can't. Its on him to own up to what he's struggling with so the staff can adjust.

All that is before discussing Van Buren and what role he can play.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25793 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 4:52 am to
Which goes back to a terrible OC hire
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
14237 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 5:04 am to
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Agree, Davis has to go, should’ve happened already.
All things become apparent in time. Some of you on here are finally starting to realize what I've been screaming about for years in regards to Sylvester Davis. He's in over his head at LSU and needs to go asap. (The Orgeron Buffoon was the one that hired him) but BK9.9 continues the insanity.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
113071 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:14 am to
“Complimentary” coaching seems to be our biggest issue.

Our Heisman candidate is playing absolutely horrible and even with a bad o-line he still shouldn’t be 0 for forever throwing the deep ball.

Kiffin absolutely owned Brian Kelly.

Sage, Womack and Diggs made smart transfer decisions, obviously.
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