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re: Is the 1998 LSU Football Season the Most Disappointing in its History?

Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:53 am to
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:53 am to
i was still in the marines during the 98 season and living in cali.....got way too drunk many a nights watching that team squander leads.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:55 am to
2011 for me. Dominated the entire year (with the exception of the 9-6 Bama game). Then play the way we did in the NC. Super disappointing.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:55 am to
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though losing Faneca hurt more than we could have imagined.


not really. we had one of the best offenses in the SEC in 98. Lou Tepper hurt more than we could have imagined
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64896 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:56 am to
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1998 was a strange season for LSU football. I believe it was Sports Illustrated or some college football magazine that had picked them to play in the National Championship game that year. It seemed after losing to Georgia, the team couldn't really finish out games. If you look at the games against Kentucky, Notre Dame, Alabama, Ole Miss, and Georgia; if they finish those games off; the team is 9-2 with a shot to compete in the SEC Championship game. Instead, they end up 4-7.

We were up on Florida in Gainesville at halftime too
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47963 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:59 am to
No no no, didn’t you know that Les Miles was the coach of the 06 team? To the Rant no team coached by Les Miles ever underachieved. It doesn’t matter that the 06 team had 10x the talent that the 98 team had, Les was the coach and we won 10+ games. It wouldn’t matter if we had the New England Patriots roster Les’ teams cannot underachieve.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95830 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:02 am to
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No no no, didn’t you know that Les Miles was the coach of the 06 team? To the Rant no team coached by Les Miles ever underachieved. It doesn’t matter that the 06 team had 10x the talent that the 98 team had, Les was the coach and we won 10+ games. It wouldn’t matter if we had the New England Patriots roster Les’ teams cannot underachieve.
Saying a team that was the fifth best in LSU history underachieved more than any other, is something you would agree with


ETA: And are you really insinuating the rant didnt consider Miles and underachiever with his talent?



Remember, anyone can win 10 games with all this talent...........Except your boy O
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 11:03 am
Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
3927 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:02 am to
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I've haven't really been into them as much ever since.


So your relationship with LSU football has become healthier since then? That's probably a good thing.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47963 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:06 am to
Where are you getting 5th best in LSU history? That’s a subjective description anyway and yes losing at all with that roster is underachieving especially when you look at how we lost the games we did. That’s a top 10 roster alltime in college football, the only other team who can boast that many top end picks and amount of quality players throughout the draft is the early 2000 Miami roster which went to back to back title games.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95830 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:08 am to
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Where are you getting 5th best in LSU history?


1. 1958-finished number 1 in all major polls

1b. 2007-finished number 1 in all major polls

3-2003-Finished number 1 in BCS and Coaches poll

4-2011-Finished number 2 in all major polls

5-2006-Finished number 3 in all major polls
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 11:10 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47963 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:10 am to
That’s right the vast majority of the Rant believes that Miles never underachieved, of course there is a very small minority that disagrees as is with anything. You using that small minority’s to describe the general position of the Rant is dishonest just like your insinuation that O is my boy, another dishonest comment.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47963 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:12 am to
Lmfao wow ok if those made up rankings are what passes for fact or logic in your mind we’re done here. Thanks for the chuckle though.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 11:13 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59125 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:14 am to
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No no no, didn’t you know that Les Miles was the coach of the 06 team? To the Rant no team coached by Les Miles ever underachieved


Thanks for proving my point

And I’m not sure what rant you read, but I’ve seen a rant that thinks Les Miles is the worst coach ever and never won a single game, all were won on sheer talent that we only got because of Saban and when he left the program was in such shambles we only won 9 game. Of course for those like you that think he’s the worst coach ever any defend his record is unjustified and could be mistaken for saying he never did wrong.

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. It doesn’t matter that the 06 team had 10x the talent that the 98 team had,


Well the 98 team started #9 and was ranked as high as #6 and finished 4-7. The 06 team started #8 and finished #3 (again at the time only the 5th top 3 finish in school history). So if you find that disappointing, more disappointing then going from #6 to unranked then I’d argue you have standards that are unreasonable and or just hate the coach
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95830 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:15 am to
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That’s right the vast majority of the Rant believes that Miles never underachieved,
You cant be a real human being
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47963 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:17 am to
And you’d be wrong, I met Gerry Dinardo a couple times while he was HC here and I really like the man. Anyone who followed LSU back then knew the 98 team was in trouble. The defense had very little talent and the offense was good but Herb wasn’t the kind of QB that could win shootouts. The worries turned into reality way before the losses as Idaho ran up and down the field on us during an early season win. After that game those of us who actually witnessed that era and paid attention to football knew it was going to be a long season.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 11:19 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64896 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:21 am to
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Lmfao wow ok if those made up rankings

I don't think using AP and Coaches Polls are "made up." He said that the 2006 team finished as the 5th highest ranked LSU team of all-time. That is an objectively true statement as only 4 teams have finished the season ranked higher than the 2006 team.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59125 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:21 am to
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That’s right the vast majority of the Rant believes that Miles never underachieved, of course there is a very small minority that disagrees as is with anything


If anything it’s the exact opposite. I’ve never seen a successful coach so vilified by his own fan base for the son of not being as good as his predecessor who also wound up at the historical best program in the conference (and arguably all of CFB). What other coach has his own fans belittle a National Title?

I’m sorry you see the world in only either or terms. But defend Miles record in no way means suggesting he was flawless, never underachieved or anything of the sort. Things also change over time and Individual seasons are just that and need to be looked at individually.

2015 underachieved imo, 2013 and 2012 also but not 2006
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47963 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:22 am to
Sorry just the truth, which I can tell by your fantasy LSU rankings you’re not that interested in. If you wanted to rank alltime LSU team by lets say facts, stats and metrics you could use the SRS ranking which takes all factors into account. But that would place the 06 team was 12th alltime which would refute your fantastic narrative so I’m sure you wouldn’t wanna go that route.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95830 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:23 am to
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Sorry just the truth, which I can tell by your fantasy LSU rankings you’re not that interested in. If you wanted to rank alltime LSU team by lets say facts, stats and metrics you could use the SRS ranking which takes all factors into account. But that would place the 06 team was 12th alltime which would refute your fantastic narrative so I’m sure you wouldn’t wanna go that route.


You are either 16, or insane

I havent figured it out yet
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59125 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:23 am to
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And you’d be wrong, I met Gerry Dinardo a couple times while he was HC here and I really like the man


I was referring to Miles. You clearly hate him, my comment on page 1 i said people would not say 98 or some other previous season because they’d rather bash Miles
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47963 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:24 am to
No it’s not my god dude if you really believe that, don’t understand why it isn’t true at all and has no basis in reality then bless your heart.
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