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re: Is Taylor Dugas the biggest mistake of the Mainieri era
Posted on 1/20/12 at 2:20 pm to therick711
Posted on 1/20/12 at 2:20 pm to therick711
I'll go with Rene Escobar.
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 2:23 pm to The Boat
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I'll go with Rene Escobar.
Worth it just for his hair in the LSUsports pic.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 2:36 pm to The Boat
quote:had his chance but couldn't cut it and consequently didn't make the roster.
Escobar
Posted on 1/20/12 at 2:55 pm to Jimbeaux28
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What you should be asking is why didn't Mainieri find a place for Dugas AND Mahtook....
this
Posted on 1/20/12 at 3:05 pm to nicholastiger
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The decision did come down to Mahtook and Dugas and LSU chose the right one there. Mahtook contributed to a national title. Dugas hasn't been to Omaha.
I've seen a lot of responses like this. Mahtook, while very important to the National Title team, was not the Mahtook of the past two years. Further, outside of Homers and an edge in RBI (likely attributable to the fact that Mahtook batted in the middle of the lineup while Dugas led off) it could easily be argued Dugas was more productive than Mahtook that specific year. While I recognize Mahtook has that HUGE at bat in the first game against Tejas, Dugas put up very impressive and comparable numbers in year one.
Mahtook exploded in the subsequent years widening the gap, but to base the decision on that first year probably isn't the best indicator.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 3:09 pm to therick711
quote:I would take just one year of Mahtook (national championship) over four of Dugas.
Evaluating it as we sit here today though, would you take three years of Mahtook of four of Dugas?
Posted on 1/20/12 at 3:15 pm to therick711
not sure of a good baseball analogy to get my opinion across, So I will just say I would not trade Mahtooks 3 years for a Dugas 4 year campaign.
I would hope Mainieri continues to recruit program players that will develop over 4 years with a descent mix of phenoms and maybe a few kids that will pass up the $ to get a few years of college life, a recipe that served Bertman well not too many seasons ago.
I would hope Mainieri continues to recruit program players that will develop over 4 years with a descent mix of phenoms and maybe a few kids that will pass up the $ to get a few years of college life, a recipe that served Bertman well not too many seasons ago.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 3:25 pm to therick711
quote:I disagree. We know that with Mahtook we win a national title. We have no idea what happens with Dugas. We might win all four years, or we might not win any. But again all we know is that with Mahtook, we win the 2009 national title. One in the hand is worth, in this case, four in the bush. Ergo, looking back, I will still take Mahtook.
Mahtook exploded in the subsequent years widening the gap, but to base the decision on that first year probably isn't the best indicator.
This post was edited on 1/20/12 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 1/20/12 at 3:25 pm to Tommy Patel
David Grewe wasn't exactly a great idea.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 4:06 pm to therick711
baseball is not like any other sport because of the 11.7 schollies.
to build a team, you need walk-ons or players that will accept 1/3 and not bolt to someone else because they are offered 1/2 or more. tulame has tried to buy two position players into their program with 3/4 or full schollies & it has bit them when the player is injured & they lose two positions- pitcher & batter.we were right taking mikie! won nc with him & bama has not made the cws & will not make it
to build a team, you need walk-ons or players that will accept 1/3 and not bolt to someone else because they are offered 1/2 or more. tulame has tried to buy two position players into their program with 3/4 or full schollies & it has bit them when the player is injured & they lose two positions- pitcher & batter.we were right taking mikie! won nc with him & bama has not made the cws & will not make it
Posted on 1/20/12 at 4:11 pm to TIGER62
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we were right taking mikie! won nc with him & bama has not made the cws & will not make it
It seems like most people would take Mahtook. Just playing devil's advocate, Mahtook wasn't the catalyst for the title. It was clearly Coleman, a healthy Ranaudo, and a dominant Ott. Players that Bama didn't have.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 4:44 pm to HeadSlash
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What you should be asking is why didn't Mainieri find a place for Dugas AND Mahtook
The fact is Mainieri didn't think Taylor was SEC material. He flat out told Thibodeaux (Teurlings Catholic coach) this. Sometimes you get it wrong. Mainieri projected on size/power, he never thought Taylor would be the hitter he was in high school in the SEC. It happens, you miss sometime !
Posted on 1/20/12 at 4:46 pm to lsuhunt555
Who the hell is Taylor Dugas?
Posted on 1/20/12 at 5:11 pm to mountainTigah
Posted on 1/20/12 at 5:13 pm to mountainTigah
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Who the hell is Taylor Dugas?
Alabama center fielder.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 5:31 pm to Jimbeaux28
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What you should be asking is why didn't Mainieri find a place for Dugas and Mahtook...
This
And Mahtook was instrumental in our national championship. No way would we want to give up having him.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 5:46 pm to TIGERFANZZ
I was under the impression that LSU didn't try to sign him..
Posted on 1/20/12 at 6:48 pm to 91TIGER
i remember cm saying that we were set @ outfield & althought taylor was a better player @ the time , he thought mikie had more upside. he was right!
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:16 pm to therick711
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Choke Laval did that. None of them ever made it to campus. This strategy has risks as well.
huge misconception. you are clueless.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:53 pm to Lester Earl
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huge misconception. you are clueless.
Impeccably researched. Consider the myth debunked. You're a twit and possibly Smoke.
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