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re: Is it fair to say this is overall the best coached LSU team since the Saban era?
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:51 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:51 pm to Lester Earl
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You admitted to saying it, that’s all I needed to hear Box. You lose.
Nope, the claim you're supposed to be backing up is
quote:quote:What have I not given him credit for? Please back up you bullshite with evidence
We know from your O takes that you have no idea how to allocate credit for anything
Back that garbage up
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:52 pm to BeeFense5
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No man. I’m not
You should, its going to be our highest rated ever
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Cool. Thanks for the update
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:55 pm to Lester Earl
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O had to retool QB, WR, OL & LB
Our WRs were adequate at worst but they're elite now
QB - obviously huge improvement
OL - Huge improvement and they're now coming into their own
LB - We already had White and Divinity but bringing in Philips, Queen, Chaisson was a pretty big deal
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:55 pm to radicalizedtigah
Let's win a SECC first?
Posted on 11/11/19 at 11:04 pm to Powerman
The WRs sucked dude
Trey Quinn, Jon Diarse, Tyrion Johnson and Jazz Ferguson all transferred out
Foster Moreau & Darrel Williams were the 2nd & 3rd leading pass catchers in 2017
Donnie Alexander was a starting LB in 17, he was terrible, as was Corey Thompson (who played well), who had to be moved down from Safety. Just about every backup were freshmen. That is poor roster construction.
Keep in mind LSU had already gone to 3-4. Look at the LBs the last two years and compare them. shite that is with Tyler Taylor not even on the team
Understand how crucial it is to be able to plug in, say, Patrick Queen in for Divinity & not skip a beat
Trey Quinn, Jon Diarse, Tyrion Johnson and Jazz Ferguson all transferred out
Foster Moreau & Darrel Williams were the 2nd & 3rd leading pass catchers in 2017
Donnie Alexander was a starting LB in 17, he was terrible, as was Corey Thompson (who played well), who had to be moved down from Safety. Just about every backup were freshmen. That is poor roster construction.
Keep in mind LSU had already gone to 3-4. Look at the LBs the last two years and compare them. shite that is with Tyler Taylor not even on the team
Understand how crucial it is to be able to plug in, say, Patrick Queen in for Divinity & not skip a beat
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 11/11/19 at 11:05 pm to Lester Earl
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Lester Earl
Still waiting
Posted on 11/11/19 at 11:07 pm to LNCHBOX
You don’t care, it’s ok
Posted on 11/11/19 at 11:08 pm to Lester Earl
Guess your bookmarks failed you.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 11:12 pm to Lester Earl
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The WRs sucked dude
Trey Quinn, Jon Diarse, Tyrion Johnson and Jazz Ferguson all transferred out
Foster Moreau & Darrel Williams were the 2nd & 3rd leading pass catchers in 2017
Chark and Gage are NFL starters
I think the Canada scheme just wasn't very WR friendly and Etling was pretty limited
Posted on 11/11/19 at 11:33 pm to BeeFense5
Wow, I've been away for a spell; this thread is still going strong. Hell it has doubled since I left. I'm not sure I can catch up, I'm kinda sleepy.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 4:23 am to Fat Bastard
quote:Fact is LSU couldn't run the ball or pass block in '09, so there was nothing built to run it. Crowton's MO was coming in and taking someone elses O and deploying his principles, but sucked at building or maintaining offenses wherever he went.
JJ could not run crowtons O in 2009 and then miles made him a lame duck and took over offense with his style. bo ball in 2010.
Still I contend this was ultimately on Miles, the ex-OL coach, not to see it coming sooner.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 4:29 am to BeeFense5
I think it is fair to say miles had many good things, but also had many wtf things. Part of coaching is the willingness to evolve. Also part of it is something called clock management. Miles had a great run, but still I think we have an overall better coached team. I'd argue also we had a better coached team than when saban first got started here. Yes, ha had some success, but people put him on too high a pedestal because he is saban. 2002 and 2004 weren't exactly killer years.
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 4:55 am
Posted on 11/12/19 at 4:34 am to ShortyRob
There was a ton of NFL talent on the roster when saban took over. I think it was more a culture change.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 4:39 am to radicalizedtigah
I swear, some of you either can’t read, or comprehend. The term best is a superlative. You can compare great coaching staffs and yet still determine one to be the best of the best.
It’s really a simple, logical question. You may disagree with the ultimate choice, but let’s not flame the OP for what is a well structured question.
It’s really a simple, logical question. You may disagree with the ultimate choice, but let’s not flame the OP for what is a well structured question.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 4:56 am to Coonass
Look at who was flaming though. Mostly lunchbox. That would be expected from that loser.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 5:05 am to Reasonable227
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Look at who was flaming though. Mostly lunchbox. That would be expected from that loser.
Look at the alter claiming others are flaming while he's too scared to use his real name to post.
And what's funny is you post something that is in line with my thinking, and say I'm flaming
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I'd argue also we had a better coached team than when saban first got started here. Yes, ha had some success, but people put him on too high a pedestal because he is saban. 2002 and 2004 weren't exactly killer years.
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 5:10 am
Posted on 11/12/19 at 6:23 am to Lester Earl
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O had to retool QB, WR, OL & LB
2016 was insanely talented but became a waste after they went into the season with Miles
16 guys from that team were in nfl camps that summer
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2017- 7
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2015- 6
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2013- 6
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quote:Miles put in the work up to October '16, leaving Ed basically only January to recruit up to '17 NSD, so I guess you're crediting Miles for the base of this current team?
In 2017 LSU had the 3rd most Freshmen snaps of all P5 schools. This, of course is the base of the current team.
Orgeron did well to retain what Miles gathered, of course aided somewhat by staff continuity.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 6:45 am to Powerman
Chark is fine but Gage was drafted into the nfl because of special team.
Now compare those WRs to the ones LSU has now. Or the ones they had in the past.
Prob the worst WR corps in 20 years
Now compare those WRs to the ones LSU has now. Or the ones they had in the past.
Prob the worst WR corps in 20 years
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:16 am to Lester Earl
Based on what the OP said, I would say applied to a single season, yes. Les had some great years but even in the good years the team was plagued with discipline issues on the field, far too many stupid penalties, clock management etc. and discipline issues off of the field. Also, since 2011, and perhaps my biggest frustration it seemed like Les couldn't keep the team focused between regular season and post season. All coaching issues.
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