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re: Is it fair to conclude Miles had an adverse effect on Moffit and strength & conditioning?

Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:49 pm to
Thank you
Posted by Tigerstark
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Member since Aug 2011
6535 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:58 pm to
Geez some of you are just obtuse.

Team was in great shape under miles. Still practiced way too hard and way too physical and way too long on a daily basis. That wears you down and slows you down.

There was a great article this year about speeds during practice and how O and jack communicate about them and use them to gauge how hard to go. Miles got the same info and completely ignored it.

There is a reason miles teams had so many struggles in November each year. Even bad teams like Arkansas and ole miss many times. Teams were just exhausted. Hell Houston Nutt should be paying miles the read of his life for making his career.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:12 pm to
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Les fell behind with the times but he still brought us a natty


Guess you weren't around when Les shite the bed his last trip to a natty game.
Posted by Nobelium
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:13 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/23/21 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14369 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:29 pm to
Les Miles lucked into a championship. The man should thank whoever shoved that horseshoe up his arse. It eventually came out and we had to watch several years of bad football until he was mercifully fired.
Posted by adam32
Pawcatuck, Connecticut
Member since Aug 2006
4684 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:42 pm to
How does shortening practices mean not working hard?
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
8895 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:53 pm to
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If you think that coach O doesn't work his kids hard, your stupid.

Coach O, Tommy and Jack work those kids hard, but they know how to control it. You can feel it out and cut periods shorter to save legs. Les was extending practices and would run them into the ground.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
8895 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:56 pm to
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So maybe Miles knew what he was doing after all?

Sure as hell had no clue on 1/9/12 and whenever he would face a team that could beat his version of bully ball.
Posted by SofaKingTrill
Member since Mar 2008
7553 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 1:08 am to
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I’ve always thought that preparing for that hurry up offense is what paved the way for us to have the year we had that year.



So maybe Miles knew what he was doing after all?
Can't be.
All the truck nutz baws say different.


Well, that season ended with LSU playing for a national championship in New Orleans against a team they had already beaten on the road. In that game, LSU barely passed the 50 yard line and didn't score a single point. Yea.... I guess Miles knew what he was doing with the best conditioned team in college football.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31562 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 2:37 am to
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Sure as hell had no clue on 1/9/12 and whenever he would face a team that could beat his version of bully ball.



I see it both ways. You could see it coming when we played UGA in the SECCG. We had no first downs in the first half. With that being said, we woke up in the second half and blew them away. But it was the same looking offense. And I like Miles, I still do. But you can't keep putting the same offense out there game after game after game. You have to change things up.


We had already beaten Bama so if they're so great, that win should have counted for more than it did. It would have had it been reversed. I don't understand why a team who didn't win their conference or even their side of the conference should get a redo. It wouldn't apply to any other team.
We play another game and Bama gets to rest for an extra week. That's garbage. They've done this twice now. Gundy should've advocated for his team more than he did. The next best team lost, bring in the team behind them. If it's a blowout, so be it. Nobody flipped out when Bama knocked out McCoy in the natty and they faced a true freshman. I'm so done with these other sets of rules that apply only to them. It's BS. You even saw it this past season. They still lose and Gary's on there saying, "I get it, their strength of schedule is weak but they can still be in there." Glad Auburn destroyed that.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 2:56 am
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16536 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:51 am to
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Despite that he still had some very good teams and with the right bounces could’ve had at least two more titles


I would counter that by saying he had some very good fortune in his early years, where the ball did bounce the right way for him.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
I love the OT!
Member since Oct 2008
11524 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:51 am to
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And you're 12 years old. Your post provides ample proof of it.



Nah, I'm 12 1/2.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46747 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 6:35 am to
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That 2011 team was insane. We were not only stronger but we were faster than Oregon too.

Yep. And Saban had been gone 7 years, but I’m sure he somehow deserves the credit.
Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2032 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 7:49 am to
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Les fell behind with the times but he still brought us a natty. Show some respect.



That is funny right there. Miles was the only coach in the BCS era to play for a title with 2 losses. Think about this for a minute. All the 4 and 5-star recruits, all the future NFL players, and inheriting a program from Saban (arguably the best college coach ever) and without West Virginia dropping a game that they were a 5 Touchdown favorite. Miles has Zero National titles. Miles did nothing to advance LSU.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:01 am to
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Les fell behind with the times but he still brought us a natty. Show some respect.



Fk him...water under the bridge!
Posted by NattyTiger19
Sugar Bowl
Member since Jan 2020
924 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:04 am to
I think something had an adverse effect on your brain. Indeed, this thread is so stupid that obviously something is wrong.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32895 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:39 am to
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Miles was a retard

Hardly. He was a good coach that didn't evolve with the game and processes it took to be an elite college football program. All of it passed him by. He also had a hell of a lucky streak that eventually ran out.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
58974 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:13 am to
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Miles was given every opportunity to fix his shortcomings and he didn’t that’s on him

If marucci couldn’t get him to change his practice habits no one could

Despite that he still had some very good teams and with the right bounces could’ve had at least two more titles


the only sane take. Miles did not change with the times, Saban did. Not that Miles is a Saban, but that is what happened.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:15 am to
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LSU is a really good job. I’ll leave it at that.



hallman, dinardo, archer, arnsparger, and mcclendon say hello, none of whom even sniffed a natty

what Les did at LSU was GREAT......was time for him to go, but there's no reason to talk badly about someone who kicked arse while he was here
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
6738 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:53 am to
It's been so long, i thought you meant Brennan.
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