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re: Is it an athletic competition or pageant?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:36 am to Oneforthemoney
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:36 am to Oneforthemoney
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Not if they have played little sisters of the poor the entire year. Best matters. Not entitlement, more deserving, or entitled. Participation trophies don't count in the real world
So then why don’t we just let Vegas decide who’s the national champion?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:38 am to Chad504boy
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You’re telling me that Bama taking down the reigning champions of a 20 plus game win streak matters the least.
I’m telling you that there is an undefeated power 5 champ that should get in above them. Wins and losses simply HAVE to matter.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:38 am to Chad504boy
Maybe. Don’t know if they don’t play. I remember attending the 1993 Sugar Bowl between Miami and Alabama and NO ONE thought Alabama belonged on the same field as Miami because they barely beat their opponents whereas Miami murdered everyone that year. The eye test would have told you that Miami was the bomb and Bama was the target.
Or how about Ohio State v Miami 2002? Or Ohio State v Florida 2006? They eye test is a deceptive way of saying “I think…”
Or how about Ohio State v Miami 2002? Or Ohio State v Florida 2006? They eye test is a deceptive way of saying “I think…”
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:40 am to Oneforthemoney
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Which it should. Liberty went undefeated. Are they a top 4 team? Same thing with power 5 conference.
Washington and Oregon literally beat nobodies all year. Same with Mich and osu. Playing little sisters of the poor all year long and going undefeated does not (entitle) a team to a top 4 ranking. As much as participation trophy kids that are adult now want it to be, that's not how life works. That's not how a job works. That's not how it works at a company.
All you can do is beat the teams on your schedule.
There are 5 power conferences and the undefeated champion of any of them has done something. In fact they have done all they can. They won every game.
Some want to assume that beating a SEC opponent means more than beating an ACC opponent.
At that point it becomes a subjective guessing game. An objective approach would consider wins and losses.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:46 am to Chad504boy
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It’s certainly possible.
What an outstanding support of a playoff team
Would Texas, Washington, or Michigan beat Georgia or Alabama right now?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:48 am to Oneforthemoney
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Participation trophies don't count in the real world
Which is why Alabama is out.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:49 am to Chad504boy
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Would they beat Bama or UGA right fricking now?
Who gives a shite? Why use hypotheticals when you have actual results to help your decision. FSU is an undefeated conference champion. They 100% are in
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:53 am to 0
Bama lost to Texas at home by 10. I can’t see how they have a leg to stand on.
If the committee picks Bama over FSU or Texas, they will be taking perception of program over results on the field - therefore we would have a beauty pageant, not a competition.
If the committee picks Bama over FSU or Texas, they will be taking perception of program over results on the field - therefore we would have a beauty pageant, not a competition.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:55 am to Chad504boy
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Would they beat Bama or UGA right fricking now?
Do we get the Bama from yesterday or the Bama from last week? FSU absolutely beats one of those.
As for schedules, why are people talking like UGA deserves a mulligan? They played 1 decent team this year and lost. Maybe they weren't that good and Bama's win wasn't that impressive.
FSU on the other hand, played their conference slate and 2 SEC teams. Let's not forget that our o-line got its arse whipped and were actually telling FSU D-linemen how great they were. They embarrassed us, including our vaunted offense. With time to prepare the 2nd team QB, I absolutely give them a chance against the other playoff teams (and Bama/UGA). I've thought they looked like the best team in the country all year (with Travis). I'm not convinced they aren't still.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:02 am to grizzlylongcut
I said a component, not an end-all.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:08 am to novabill
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Some want to assume that beating a SEC opponent means more than beating an ACC opponent.
Let’s not forget that FSU had *two* SEC opponents on their OOC schedule.
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