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Interesting Defensive stats
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:48 am
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:48 am
2018 Defense:
Yds/game - 346
Yds/play - 4.8
Plays/game - 70.4
2019 Defense:
Yds/game - 320
Yds/play - 4.71
Plays/game - 68
This tells me 2 things:
1. Stop saying it's the offense's fault. Defense isn't "tired".
2. Defense has just made too many mistakes (tackling, missed assignments, etc) and it's stuff that can be fixed.
O said it this morning - LSU had 18 missed tackles against Vandy for 150 yds. Tackling is fixable. It needs to get fixed now, but it's fixable.
I got this info from here
LINK
Yds/game - 346
Yds/play - 4.8
Plays/game - 70.4
2019 Defense:
Yds/game - 320
Yds/play - 4.71
Plays/game - 68
This tells me 2 things:
1. Stop saying it's the offense's fault. Defense isn't "tired".
2. Defense has just made too many mistakes (tackling, missed assignments, etc) and it's stuff that can be fixed.
O said it this morning - LSU had 18 missed tackles against Vandy for 150 yds. Tackling is fixable. It needs to get fixed now, but it's fixable.
I got this info from here
LINK
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 12:10 pm
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:51 am to TchPowDog
These type of stats have been posted many times now.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:51 am to TchPowDog
quote:
2. Defense has just made too many mistakes (tackling, missed assignments, etc) and it's stuff that can be fixed.
O said it this morning - LSU had 18 missed tackles against Vandy for 150 yds. Tackling is fixable. It needs to get fixed now, but it's fixable.
ALLLLLLLL of this....
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:53 am to LSUfanNkaty
In my observation, our linebackers are missing the most assignments and our DBs are missing the most tackles.
ETA: that's only based on my eyes though, I could be wrong.
ETA: that's only based on my eyes though, I could be wrong.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 11:56 am
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:54 am to TchPowDog
Great post.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:55 am to TchPowDog
quote:
In my observation, it's mostly our linebackers. They blow a lot of plays and miss gap assignments. They need to play smarter.
Who is coaching the LB group currently? Wasn't Aranda touted as a LB guru coming in? Wonder what happened..
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:55 am to TchPowDog
So why are we suddenly missing tackles?
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:58 am to JudgeHolden
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So why are we suddenly missing tackles?
I don't know, most of the time it's because guys are out of position to make the tackle or there's too much space between the defender and ball carrier. There isn't one reason.
I think Aranda may be trying to do too much with the defense and our players are getting confused, but I don't want to speculate too much - because I don't know how to do Aranda's job, so I leave it at that.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:00 pm to mtntiger
If this is looking at the entire 2018 season this is deceptive because of better competition. It's impossible to compare the entire 2018 season when you faced Miami, UGA, UF, AU, Bama, and A&M.
So far the only quality opponent has been Texas and lower tier SEC team.
I don't think the defense is as good as last year and I don't think the stats of the OP prove a point. At least not until we see better teams. Now I do think they will improve and get better and I think some of it comes with different play calling as well. It looks to be pretty vanilla, but the tackling has got to get better.
So far the only quality opponent has been Texas and lower tier SEC team.
I don't think the defense is as good as last year and I don't think the stats of the OP prove a point. At least not until we see better teams. Now I do think they will improve and get better and I think some of it comes with different play calling as well. It looks to be pretty vanilla, but the tackling has got to get better.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:01 pm to jp4lsu
quote:
I don't think the defense is as good as last year and I don't think the stats of the OP prove a point
Does it not prove the point that this is wrong - "our defense isn't doing well because they play too many downs" - because that's the point of my post.
Forget the yards stats, look at plays/game. Many people are thinking our guys are gassed and that's why they're blowing plays, coverages, etc. - this is not true.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:06 pm to JudgeHolden
Because they are trying to rip the ball to cause a fumble instead of wrapping up the ball carrier and actually tackling them!!!
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:08 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:
So why are we suddenly missing tackles?
Idk about the other guys but I've kept an eye on Delpit lately and hes just throwing shoulders at legs. Dude isn't even bothering to wrap up.
He has one Saturday where he left his feet throwing a shoulder and the receiver bounced off him and kept his balance to pick up extra yardage. I have no clue how that hasn't been fixed 4 games in.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:09 pm to tschla1
quote:
Because they are trying to rip the ball to cause a fumble instead of wrapping up the ball carrier and actually tackling them!!!
Delpit doesn't wrap up and that's frustrating to see.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:11 pm to TchPowDog
quote:
2018 Defense: Yds/game - 346 Yds/play - 4.8 Plays/game - 70.4
2019 Defense: Yds/game - 320 Yds/play - 4.71 Plays/game - 68
Those stats actually don't bode well for the Tigers. Your 2019 stats don't include any major SEC teams Alabama, Auburn, or Florida, while your 2018 stats include those.
LSU has played its cupcakes, defensive and offensive stats will only go down from here.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:20 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:
So why are we suddenly missing tackles?
Maybe a better question would be - who is missing the tackles?
In the first four games, most missed tackles have been in the secondary - namely, 5 and 7. D line has missed a couple, LB’s a few.
Our DB legacy has been judged, in large part, by how physical they are and how well they tackle in open space.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:21 pm to TchPowDog
I'm not saying this defense hasn't had some very glaring issues, but using the plays per game comparison is misleading due to the fact the A&M game skews that stat. A&M ran nearly 110 plays that game in large part due to the 7 OT's. That is a complete anomaly. A&M ran 31 plays in OT
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:21 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
Your 2019 stats don't include any major SEC teams Alabama, Auburn, or Florida, while your 2018 stats include those.
This is true.
quote:
LSU has played its cupcakes
We still have Utah State, Arkansas and Ole Miss though.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:28 pm to tschla1
quote:
Because they are trying to rip the ball to cause a fumble instead of wrapping up the ball carrier and actually tackling them!!!
Even this isn't the case. Stingley had a missed tackle where he was trying to strip the ball, but most of the time we are in position and then barely even touching guys. I'll give you two instances.
Kary Vincent is in perfect position. 3rd and 1, a solid tackle forces a punt. The guy does not juke, does not cut, just runs straight. Vincent did not even touch him. This set up a Vandy field goal.
Next we have Delpit, our All-american safety.
Delpit is in good position here, it's going to be a big run, but Delpit can clean it up. Instead, Delpit doesn't even slow him down. Touchdown on the play.
Also on Lipscomb's touchdown in the 4th there were THREE missed tackles. Fulton had him all but wrapped up after a short gain but couldn't bring him down. Monroe didn't put a hand on him then Vincent barely even tried to tackle.
The defense has busted some coverages and that is pretty concerning with guys like Mullen and and Bama on the schedule. But the piss poor tackling is even more concerning. Even when Dave does have guys in position they can't make the play.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:30 pm to Alt26
quote:
using the plays per game comparison is misleading due to the fact the A&M game skews that stat. A&M ran nearly 110 plays that game in large part due to the 7 OT's. That is a complete anomaly. A&M ran 31 plays in OT
Ok, let's do some math
LSU had 70.4 plays/game last year in 13 games:
70.4 * 13 = 915 plays
915 - 31 (A&M OT plays) = 884 total regulation plays
884 / 13 = 68 plays/game
Not that big of a difference is it? People need to stop using A&M game as an anomaly for some of these stats. That game doesn't matter for most stats.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:31 pm to TchPowDog
quote:
In my observation, our linebackers are missing the most assignments and our DBs are missing the most tackles.
Queen took a wrong step on the first long run, but the second one was all young guys in the game.
Clark and Baskerville were playing in the middle. Delpit did miss a tackle as the last man of defense, badly, and Vaughn was just too fast for Stevens.
But it's little stuff like that which can be corrected.
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