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re: I’m really confused as to why Brian Kelly didn’t work out at LSU

Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by ScotlandAve
Member since Dec 2024
318 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:08 pm to
A lot of guys on BK’s ND staff preferred to work for Marcus Freeman. The same goes for Luke Fickel’s staff at Cincy. A lot of those guys are at ND with Freeman.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7386 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:14 pm to
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He had a great run of hiring stud DC’s. A couple of guys named Clark Lea and Mike Elko.

Marcus Freeman was pretty good too.
I know a lot of LSU fans weren't impressed w/ him when he was here, but it's looking like Denbrock was a pretty solid OC . Denbrock coached a number of. different positions w/ CBK at Grand Valley State, Notre Dame and LSU and prob gave a lot of advice outside of his coach role. Losing him prob created a large void that CBK couldn't fill.

ETA: Mike Denbrokck was OC and Marcus Freeman was DC when they coached together at Cincinnati a number of years. Denbrock w/ at ND w/ Kelly when Kelly hired Freeman as DC. It makes me wonder if Denbrock played a role advising Kelly w/ some of his better staff hires. When Denbrock, Kelly may've lost a trusted advisor.
This post was edited on 10/26/25 at 3:46 pm
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
77775 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:15 pm to
Since it looks like it’s over, I’m a little sad it didn’t work out. I really wanted to rub a title in those salty bitch ND fans and national media who were offended LSU would hire NDs coach away.

Oh well
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
11930 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:18 pm to
I’m surprised it didn’t work out either. Had all the makings of being great. But he made terrible coaching hires. He fielded a NC caliber offense w JD5 and company but had a defense that was the worst ever at lsu. Every year he’s had some unit sucking arse. Either he’s checked out or just a bad evaluator of talent w both coaches and players.
Posted by Amused Lurker
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
2104 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:18 pm to
Totally agree. This isn’t the Kelly we thought we were getting based on his record. He was known for pulling underperforming QBs and sent multiple lineman and tight ends to the NFL.

It makes you wonder what is going on inside the program? The culture is soft.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56560 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:19 pm to
I don't think he understood what it really took to win in the SEC or how good the competition really is.

Didn't understand how important it was to have a good defense. Didn't understand how tough and physical the linemen are. Didn't understand winning in SEC requires a certain tenacity and mean streak.

We can say NIL changed everything but he ran off Nader and didn't really focus on recruiting when he got here as opposed to you know who. Even Orgeron knew how to recruit.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
161511 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:20 pm to
When it was initially announced he was hired I wasn’t happy. Then I talked myself into it and tried ignoring every red flag because we were in it for the long haul

I thought he’d spend 2-3 years building, either get the natty or come close, then retire or coast on the remaining few years of his deal. Then I thought maybe Kelly will have us perennially stuck at 2-3 losses a year but not bad enough to fire

I did not think it would end in a total train wreck in season firing before we even hit the halfway point
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
14206 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:20 pm to
Incredibly BAD Coordinator and Assistant Coach hires. (Still playing out on Offense)
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
77775 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:22 pm to
Kelly being fired halfway thru year 4 is a total fricking shocker, whether you love, hate, or don’t care about him
Posted by Recoveringcajun
Banjo country
Member since Aug 2022
2446 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:22 pm to
I seem to remember CBK beating Les Miles’ LSU team in the Music City bowl

I also seem to remember that LSU’s offense that day was completely hapless against CBK’s Notre Dame defense.

Soft ND schedule and all…
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
168153 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

When it was initially announced he was hired I wasn’t happy. Then I talked myself into it and tried ignoring every red flag because we were in it for the long haul


Same

Beating bama and getting to Atlanta was a nice tonic in year 1 but i always felt his condescending ways would get the better of him.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
40439 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:24 pm to
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. I thought we were getting a Saban-like coach
wow
Posted by Butch Baum
Member since Oct 2007
3468 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:25 pm to
He’s old, not motivated, Yankee, Carpetbagger, Not involved and intense and not hungry or willing to work his arse off!
Posted by GaTiger27
Member since Feb 2016
1769 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:25 pm to
I wasn’t sold on the championship part but i also didn’t expect this much of a failure.

I did think he was a good short term guy who could build, organize and rejuvenate that program O left us with, which I think he did a pretty good job at doing.
- he took us to an Sec championship
- JD5 won a heisman

It’s crazy how optimistic I was about this season.
Posted by Skenes
Member since Mar 2025
394 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:30 pm to
Kelly was so fricking overrated, LSU fans made it seem he was hindered by the academics of Notre Dame but reality he is a decent coach but not a good one. I've bitched about him since hiring and hated the hiring.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
161511 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:33 pm to
If he wins no one cares he’s a prick

Losing underwood was a death blow. If we were having this type of season with him, Kelly likely gets 1 more year as he develops

Instead Nuss got the bag , then we went on a spending spree, expectations got really high, and we face planted. Roster next year isn’t in good shape so it’s tough to imagine even with an all new offensive staff things would suddenly turn around. Kudos to those that went ahead and did what was necessary if true
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
161511 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:35 pm to
Kelly won everywhere he’s been, he’s not a bad coach

But I think his bread and butter was winning with over achieving 3-4 year program guys. Thats no longer the model
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20133 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:39 pm to
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It’s crazy how optimistic I was about this season.

I thought after the Clemson game we might go undefeated. I saw a disciplined team executing a complicated game plan at a high level on both sides of the ball. Sure, I wanted to see more deep balls and more success running the ball, but it looked like Nussmeier had control of the offense and the defense looked really good. I don't know wtf happened.
Posted by Skenes
Member since Mar 2025
394 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:45 pm to
What of bote has he won?
He beat up on Army, Navy, and Air Force at Notre Dame

He lost the Orange bowl at Cincinnati and resigned before the Sugar Bowl, his biggest bowl wins are the Citrus Bowl
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7386 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:51 pm to
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I also seem to remember that LSU’s offense that day was completely hapless against CBK’s Notre Dame defense.

FIFY
You mean Brian Van Gorder's (DC) defense.
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