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re: If you told me Frey would get drafted before Bear at the end of ‘24 season…
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:02 am to Meauxjeaux
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:02 am to Meauxjeaux
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You do realize that definition is the quintessential MLB hitter for Baseball in 2025?
It's because pitching has gotten so good that it's difficult to score runs by stringing things together. So everyone has to sell out for power.
1-4 with a 3 run bomb and 3 Ks is still really valuable if you win 4-3.
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:03 am to NotaStarGazer
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1) if he can, move up in the batter's box so that the last movement of the slider doesn't hurt him
And totally frick him on fastballs, got it
quote:
) move towards the plate in the box if he can to get closer to that outside corner pitch
And make a guy with a long swing useless against middle in fastballs, got it
How about you let the guys who are paid to coach do the coaching. I bet their first instruction would be to not swing at those pitches at all
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:07 am to AlextheBodacious
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You’re fixating on Gallo’s career average which, if he could hit .194 today, he’d still be playing. Gallo has insane power that and his ability to play so many positions is why teams kept picking him up. Few people in the history of the game can hit a ball as far as Joey Gallo can.
I mentioned his hideous BA but didn't mention his horrible ratio of 2.5 K per BB. My brother is a huge Rangers fan and he keeps telling me how Scott Boris screwed Gallo when he was with the Rangers. Texas offered him a long term contract but Boris is one of these guys who likes shorter term ones because he is afraid of leaving money on the table. Well, Gallo never got the money over the years that Texas offered him with other teams. As far as "hitting the ball as far"...., who cares! A 480' HR counts exactly the same as one that squeaks over the short porch in Yankees stadium. Oh, and as it sounds like you already know, the death knell in baseball of Gallo was the shift. My brother said for a couple of years when he was playing every day, Gallo led the majors in hits "robbed" due to the shift.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:11 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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How about you let the guys who are paid to coach do the coaching. I bet their first instruction would be to not swing at those pitches at all
I never said the coaches didn't try those things...hence the word "if" was used. Moving up in the batter's box is NOT going to make as huge of a difference on the fastball as it would on the slider. And they weren't throwing fastballs to Jones anyway unless it was a high one which he couldn't hit anyway. Of course your last phrase is the solution as to not swinging at those pitches to begin with. We agree on that for sure. But to be fair, every college hitter I have ever seen has trouble laying off the low outside/in the dirt slider.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:23 am to NotaStarGazer
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. Moving up in the batter's box is NOT going to make as huge of a difference on the fastball as it would on the slider
moving up enough to take the bite out of a slider is going to lead to getting beat by a lot more fastballs, which hitting fastballs is his bread and butter
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 9:25 am
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:31 am to ell_13
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The frick is going on in here
I called a guy an idiot because he didn't recognize a joke from My Cousin Vinny and he went off the fricking rails.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:34 am to NotaStarGazer
This has nothing to do with Jared Jones. You’ve mentioned the Yankees a few times. Luke Voit is the comparison to Jared Jones that you’re looking for.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:35 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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moving up enough to take the bite out of a slider is going to lead to getting beat by a lot more fastballs, which hitting fastballs is his bread and butter
Well, IF they started throwing him fastballs which they rarely did, then you can cross that bridge IF you ever come to it. I think you remember in the CWS, someone threw him a fastball and they paid for it. But let's make it really simple. When you strike out 9 times total in 3 consecutive games in the CWS including a platinum sombrero in one game, might be time to try something different. Jones feasted on poor pitching,...usually OOC. Of his 20 HRs during the regular season, 3 were hit against McNeese. And BTW, all those strikeouts never moved runners on base one single inch. At least put the GD ball in play when you make an out!
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:39 am to NotaStarGazer
quote:Have you read your own posts?
Reported your post yet again for basically personal insult spamming. Might be time for you seek out a psychiatrist. You just may be bat shite crazy...in addition to being stupid!
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:51 am to NotaStarGazer
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I would take Frey before Jones in a heartbeat. Frey is a heck of a lot better hitter....aka he doesn't strike out nearly as much as Jones does.
Jones struck out the most often on the team. Guess who was second?
Player | K %
Jones 30.47%
Frey 25.97%
Stanfield 25.00%
Braswell 23.65%
Curiel 21.71%
Hernandez 20.11%
Pearson 19.26%
Brown 19.10%
Dickinson 17.65%
Milam 11.20%
Frey has a lot of ability and upside. But saying he doesn't strike out much is not accurate.
Eta: to clarify, this is % of ABs, not total PAs
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 10:12 am
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:53 am to notbilly
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Jones struck out the most often on the team. Guess who was second?
Player | K %
Jones 30.47%
Frey 25.97%
Stanfield 25.00%
Braswell 23.65%
Curiel 21.71%
Hernandez 20.11%
Pearson 19.26%
Brown 19.10%
Dickinson 17.65%
Milam 11.20%
These numbers aren't correct. They don't match either the full season or the conference only numbers.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:57 am to notbilly
And now "the rest of the story". Let's compare Ks AND BB. Jones had 85 K and 31 BB while Frey had 47 K and 29 BB. Jones had more ABs so let's compare apples to apples in a stat. Jones ratio of Ks to BBs was 2.75. Frey's was 1.6. Pretty much says it all.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:00 am to ProjectP2294
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These numbers aren't correct. They don't match either the full season or the conference only numbers.
If I have a typo, I'll correct it.
player | ABs | K | Abs per K | %
Jones 279 85 3.28 30.47%
Frey 181 47 3.85 25.97%
Stanfield 208 52 4.00 25.00%
Braswell 148 35 4.23 23.65%
Curiel 258 56 4.61 21.71%
Hernandez 174 35 4.97 20.11%
Pearson 135 26 5.19 19.26%
Brown 178 34 5.24 19.10%
Dickinson 238 42 5.67 17.65%
Milam 241 27 8.93 11.20%
I used the season stats LINK
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 10:01 am
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:01 am to notbilly
K rate is based on total plate appearances, not just at bats. Your denominator ends up being too small and artificially inflating the K rate.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 10:02 am
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:02 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:03 am to NotaStarGazer
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And now "the rest of the story". Let's compare Ks AND BB. Jones had 85 K and 31 BB while Frey had 47 K and 29 BB. Jones had more ABs so let's compare apples to apples in a stat. Jones ratio of Ks to BBs was 2.75. Frey's was 1.6. Pretty much says it all.
Frey had a better season offensively. I never said otherwise. You said Jones strikes out much more than Frey. I was correcting that b/c Frey still struck out a good bit, but many good players do.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:05 am to NotaStarGazer
If only you had read his next post explaining how K rate is calculated…
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:05 am to NotaStarGazer
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Wrong as usual. His numbers for Frey and Jones ARE correct. Jones and Frey's strike out % are spot on. I realize that calculating % might be above your pay grade but they come out what the poster claimed.
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You do know the numbers don't match, right?
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:06 am to 225Tyga
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Maybe The Bear decided to come back and told the other teams not to worry about it
His swing and miss rate at the end of this year was pretty alarming. MLB scouts are projecting that to the major league level where hitting is much harder.
Crews is a good example. As good of a college hitter as he was, he has a hole or two in his swing and the pros are hammering it. He's batting .196 this season.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:08 am to ProjectP2294
Oh I wasn't posting official stats. I was trying to do quick math without have to do all that. But I forgot I can pull that from D1 so here you go...
k% from d1 on the season
Jones 26.1
Frey 22.2
Stanny 20.4
Bras 18.9
Luis 17.4
Curiel 17.3
Brown 16.0
Pearson 15.5
Dick 13.8
Milam 9.2
k% from d1 on the season
Jones 26.1
Frey 22.2
Stanny 20.4
Bras 18.9
Luis 17.4
Curiel 17.3
Brown 16.0
Pearson 15.5
Dick 13.8
Milam 9.2
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