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re: If Woody could look back 20/20 hindsight, knowing full well players get bought and how
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:31 am to The First Cut
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:31 am to The First Cut
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comparing Wade to Pearl
Yeah, Pearl is about twice as old, hell of a lot fatter and got in trouble with the NCAA at every stop he has made.
He now has Auburn ranked number 1.
Pearl and Wade were best of friends.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:57 am to Penrod
quote:This - AND people seem to forget that they had receipts from Wade's literal checking account. That wasn't the same as the blue bloods being caught using AAU teams and shoe companies. It was a level above what anyone has been caught doing in recent memory. Yes, it's worse than Michigan stealing plays and UNC's fake classes (in the eyes of the NCAA).
I’ve heard enough from supposed insiders to become fairly certain that the NCAA pulled Woody aside and threatened to hit him with a football stick if he didn’t cough up Wade. So if he had it to do over again, I’d guess he would have done the same.
Then, when Woodward asked him about it (before it was released to the public) Wade lied to Woodward about it.
I would love for Wade to somehow return as head coach, but some of you need to understand the reality of the situation and stop comparing it to literally any other cheating scandal of the last 20 years.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:00 am to SuckerPunch
quote:Why do you feel the need to outiright lie about this lol? Michigan and Harbough sued the NCAA and lost. Harbough canceled (not continued, but canceled) his hearing and was literally suspended for 3 games. Their linebackers coach was fired for his role in the scheme. Harbough almost certainly left Michigan because he would've received a punishment and show cause.
Hahahhaha michigan sued the NCAA on their suspensions and ban of wins due to the sign stealing in their championship year run AND WON.
Michigan is now fighting it, as they already won their national title. But in no universe did Michigan "beat the NCAA in court."
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:08 am to FireawayLSU
quote:I’ll wait for your link that Wade was paying players out of personal checking account.
So all these coaches were caught red handed paying players out of their personal accounts??? LINK…..I’ll wait.
You call people ignorant yet you have no idea what actually happened and spouting incorrect information.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:15 am to Amused Lurker
quote:I do. Will Wade was caught using his personal checking account to pay players and then lied to Woodward about the whole thing.
Do you know all the facts of the Will Wade, Miles, and O situation with the NCAA? Did Wade cross a line somewhere else?
Miles was fired for performance, but everyone knew what was going on behind the scenes. The difference was, no one told on him for his transgressions and the administration was in lockstep until F King took over. He hated Miles and Miles hated him. Why do you think guys like Verge Ausberry are still employed at LSU? Even with his paying of players, he kept himself and LSU wholly uninvolved. LSU had plausible deniability, that's why they only had to vacate wins and not take some form of bowl ban. We offered up some scholarships and vacated wins (something that quite frankly doesn't matter).
Orgeron was fired for performance. He was thrown into the sexual assault allegations, but was dropped from the suit pre-deposition for a reason. One thing he knew how to do was pay players under the table.
Wade on the other hand was on an island trying to revive a dead program with limited boosters. There's a reason he's one of my (if not no. 1) favorite LSU coaches, regardless of sport, ever. There is no world in which he should have been on those calls. There is no world in which he should have been paying players directly. It was ballsy as hell and I loved it, but because John Calipari is a jealous little pussy, Wade got caught. He then lied to Alleva about it (right move) and then lied to Woodward about it once he took over (wrong move). If he was upfront with Woodward, someone who actually cares about winning, he would still be our head coach today.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:21 am to drizztiger
quote:If you want to play semantics you can do that, that's fine. He was proven to have paid off a player's fiance. He also paid players directly. That is a fact. That's what I loved so much about him, and it was ultimately his downfall because of (1) John Calipari and (2) a fricking FBI wire tap.
I’ll wait for your link that Wade was paying players out of personal checking account.
You call people ignorant yet you have no idea what actually happened and spouting incorrect information.
Also, hey, maybe some people also know more about a situation than you do? I know what happened. I am telling you what happened lol.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:21 am to Big4SALTbro
quote:
The last time a major school got slapped with any punishment was the Ohio state in 2013
Well, that's not true
LSU football vacated wins from 5 seasons and had a 1 year bowl ban in 2020
Ole Miss had to vacate 33 wins and got a bowl ban in 2019
Missouri got a bowl ban in 2019 for self-reported academic misconduct
Arizona St had a bowl ban last year
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:22 am to Gus007
quote:
I've heard the NCAA no longer has any power.
A lot has changed over the past several years. The Courts have neutered the NCAA with respect to athletes getting paid
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:25 am to PP7 for heisman
quote:Truth and facts aren’t semantics.
If you want to play semantics you can do that, that's fine.
That statement alone lets me know I would be wasting my time.
quote:
Also, hey, maybe some people also know more about a situation than you do? I know what happened. I am telling you what happened lol.

Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:29 am to PP7 for heisman
Thank you for taking the time and providing clarity. Much appreciated. So it seems he took the hit for all the dysfunction around the program under Alleva. Did Woody really have a choice given the direct payment allegations and keeping it from Woody?
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 10:30 am
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:49 am to SuckerPunch
quote:
It kinda makes Woody look like a pusssy for firing Wade.
Especially when we knew NIL was coming.
Woody knows all thatt we know and he knew it a lot earlier than we did. He chose to fire WW for some reason even though the entire planet knew basketball was 100% corrupt at the time. Now the program is paying the price.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:53 am to SuckerPunch
We'd be a round of 32 team at best. He showed he couldn't win with 2 or 3 NBA players on the court at once and had no idea how to coach defense. Keep dreaming.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:56 am to Amused Lurker
quote:I don't think so. The football allegations were really ramping up at the same time, too. It was a bunch of really bad decisions/situations compounded on top of one another that Wade couldn't over come.
Did Woody really have a choice given the direct payment allegations and keeping it from Woody?
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:49 am to SuckerPunch
None of their situations were like LSU’s whatsoever. None had their bell cow football program in the crosshairs of the NCAA. Let’s pretend Woodward did what all of you wanted for “the General” and the football program gets hammered. The constant crying about Wade would be a complete 180 from all of you bitches and Woodward would be an idiot for getting LSU football fricked. None of you bitching have any idea what it takes to actually run a top tier multi million dollar business. If you did, you’d already have known to shut the frick up about Will Wade.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:52 am to TigersJump
Well said! Woody is running a $200m business as CEO.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 11:53 am
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:46 pm to Fat Bastard
quote:
you dont know shite NIMROD
all speculation
Well, I implied as much in my post, but you are displaying your usual reading comprehension. If I intended you to understand, Fat Bastard, I would have stuck with “See cat run” level writing

Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:50 pm to SuckerPunch
IIRC CMM's three year contract should be up by the end of the season. Part ways with CMM and rehire tGeneral and let's get men's basketball back on track. 

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