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re: If SEC stays with 8 team SEC schedule for 2025

Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:27 am to
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:27 am to
I think the only thing that would be a given if they do another one off schedule in 2025 is that everyone would swap Oklahoma and Texas with the possible exception of A&M keeping Texas and someone else keeping Oklahoma, which could be LSU. If I had to guess, everyone else would keep 3 opponents the same and rotate the rest while they continue working on a permanent solution.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:41 am to
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include our traditional SEC rival.


The whole point should be to play every SEC team. Not hold onto rivalries from 60 years ago.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:45 am to
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What other SEC team does this?


The fact that no one does it now does not preclude it from happening in the future. The only reason it doesn’t happen now is that every team in the league has a long-standing last week rivalry game except LSU, A&M, Arkansas, and Missouri. They wanted to throw A&M a bone to replace Texas and Arkansas-Missouri made sense geographically. In the new conference alignment, it will be the same situation only replacing A&M with Oklahoma. Sure, they could choose to just make LSU-Oklahoma permanent, but that presents complications for determining who the permanent opponents are for every team now that there aren’t going to be divisions. They aren’t going to force LSU and Oklahoma and Arkansas and Missouri to be permanent opponents just for the ease of the last week. That’s especially true if teams only have 1 permanent opponent. OU and Texas are guaranteed permanent opponents. They will decide the best configuration of permanent opponents, then figure out the final weekend from there. There’s no reason at all why it can’t rotate for those 4 schools vs creating an artificial “rivalry” with Oklahoma.
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:45 am to
That would suck, Bama ,Uf and auburn are 3 games we should play every year Imo.
Posted by Draino54
Member since Mar 2022
779 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:47 am to
Money is stopping the 9 game schedule.

ESPN said they won’t pay more to SEC for 9 games. They’re in a very tough financial situation & can’t throw money around anymore. Disney looking to spin them off as a separate company & force them to earn their own way

Sec teams playing 9 games means there’s 8 more losses SEC teams will absorb. Those losses could prevent bowl appearances or worse CFP appearances which would cost the league big money.

Unless ESPN pays more, I’d be surprised to see the SEC go to 9 anytime in the next couple yrs. Blame conference office for not having the foresight to negotiate an increase in TV rights in the initial contract if they increase # of conference games. ESPN controls the money & they seem to hold the cards right now
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:48 am to
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Why would we keep A&M? I don’t even consider them as a main rival.


The problem is that no one else considers LSU their main rival.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:53 am to
Hence - there WILL NOT be only 1 permanent opponent. Who would it be?

Oklahoma? They have to play UT
Arkansas? They play Missou on thanksgiving
Alabama? Iron Bowl
Florida? UGA in Jacksonville
A&M? They play Texas on thanksgiving

There will be more than 1 permanent opponent
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:54 am to
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Unless ESPN pays more, I’d be surprised to see the SEC go to 9 anytime in the next couple yrs. Blame conference office for not having the foresight to negotiate an increase in TV rights in the initial contract if they increase # of conference games. ESPN controls the money & they seem to hold the cards right now


This is absolutely what’s going on. If ESPN can’t afford to pay them more, then the SEC needs to work out a deal with them to allow them to televise one SEC game a week on another network. ESPN would still get the same number of games they have now and it shouldn’t dilute the quality of matchups they have since there is now additional inventory and 2 more marquee programs compared to when they made the original deal. ESPN is trying to get something for nothing in this deal. They need to show partnership or the SEC should make it clear they’ll move on to someone else with the next deal.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 10:55 am
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
2872 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:59 am to
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Arkansas? They play Missou on thanksgiving


That was a completely artificial pairing with no history. Arkansas and LSU had played on Thanksgiving weekend for 20 years when A&M and Missouri joined and that was tossed to the wayside. Arkansas and Missouri have only been playing that weekend for 12 years. There’s no reason they can’t toss that aside in the same way if there are allocations of permanent opponents that make more sense.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
4967 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:02 am to
Even if 2024 is a one-time arrangement, they did it that way in 2024 for a reason.

I’d expect LSU-OU, UT-A&M, & Arky-Mizz to continue in 2025.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
2872 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:06 am to
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Even if 2024 is a one-time arrangement, they did it that way in 2024 for a reason. I’d expect LSU-OU, UT


They did it that way because it was the easiest solution to a temporary problem with no long term implications. But, yes, I agree it may stay the same for 2025 if there is still no long term solution in place. My comments were never about 2025 specifically. It was about what the long term solution would look like.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 11:09 am
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:07 am to
They could’ve just as easily done LSU/Arky & OU/Mizz on thanksgiving.
It was intentional
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:15 am to
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The whole point should be to play every SEC team. Not hold onto rivalries from 60 years ago.


I say you take all the expansion teams and make them play each other then take the originals and they play each other.

Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
2872 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:15 am to
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They could’ve just as easily done LSU/Arky & OU/Mizz on thanksgiving. It was intentional


Sure they could have done it that way, but I fail to see why doing it one way or the other tells us anything about long term intentions. If I am right that they intend to alternate those matchups, either configuration is consistent with that long term plan. Neither one would preclude the possibility of rotating. Maintaining the status quo for Arkansas-Missouri was the easiest temporary solution. It also keeps the option open to that staying a permanent fixture in the absence of any long term solutions being decided. I’m not at all saying that won’t happen. I simply said it didn’t have to be that way. There was no reason to change now until they know for sure what the long term will be.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 11:16 am
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8644 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:16 am to
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LSU would skip Ole Miss, Ark, Bama and Florida.


LSU will play Bama every year until its no longer a financial draw.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
4967 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:24 am to
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If I am right that they intend to alternate those matchups


will not happen
Posted by monsterballads
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:31 am to
Or just have every team in the sec play all of the other teams. It would make the rivalry games even more special when they aren’t every season.
Posted by Topcat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2005
453 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:40 am to
Ole Miss and Alabama have been LSU's greatest, most intense rivals over the last 75 years. Others temporarily may have offered bigger games (Auburn for a brief stretch), but over the long haul the teams that most motivate our fan base are Ole Miss and Alabama.

I've hated the conference expansion since it was announced, but if we lose our longstanding rivalry games, I'll lose passion for the game. Feed me Texas A&M and Oklahoma every year and
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9479 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:29 pm to
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It would make the rivalry games even more special when they aren’t every season.


It’s got pros and cons. A pro is you get to see guys like Tennessee and Georgia more often. A con is if you lose to a rival like ole Miss you have to wait two years to get revenge. I want revenge the next season if we lose.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20429 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:31 pm to
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Bama game losing its luster my arse. I don’t care who’s coaching Bama, I hate them no matter what!
That's your (LSU) point of view.

Bama would rather keep Auburn and Tennessee, at the very least.

I'm kinda surprised LSU-Florida didn't make the cut. Fla also has UGA (another team lots of people want to keep on schedule), but outside that I would say LSU would have been high on Fla's list, just as Fla was high on ours.
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