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If Nick Saban runs a 3-4, Ed O should run a 3-4

Posted on 11/3/20 at 8:39 am
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
5768 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 8:39 am
Simple fact is, Saban was smart enough to see where the college game was going years ago. The spread offenses in this day and age take advantage of 4 man fronts with quick passes and underneath routes. 3-4 defenses allow for more athletes on the field to cover in space and see the zone blocking most offensive lines implement today. Coach O needs to correct his mistake. ASAP
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68333 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 8:43 am to
Having a 3 or 4 man front is not indicative of "where the college game has gone".

Clemson runs a 4-2-5 and is hugely successful on defense. Same with Ohio State. you do not need to be in 3-man front to be successful on defense.
Posted by NamariTiger
Flower Mound, Texas
Member since Jun 2014
17746 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 8:48 am to
Bama runs a 4-2-5 as well. When they began getting shredded by A&M and Ole Miss because their defense was slow and unprepared for uptempo offenses he made the switch to a nickel defense. Teams like Auburn and now Miss St. run the 3-3-5.
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13760 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 8:52 am to
What in the cuck is this crap?
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12388 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 8:54 am to
People reach for anything to bitch about. 3-4 is the base which teams may actually be in 20% of the time if that. Every team is in some sort of nickel most of the time and most times with a 4 man front. Also the "additional" athlete you're talking about is usually a 250+ pound pass rusher so essentially a DE. Chiasson was our "additional" athlete last year and him playing in space wasn't exactly the ideal position to put him in. Bamas this year are pass rushers Chris Allen and Will Anderson. Neither are guys you want chasing a RB or TE in coverage.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4657 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 8:55 am to
Trump is married to Melania. I should be married to Melania.
Posted by BigRaggedyTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
517 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 8:59 am to
I agree
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4657 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 9:01 am to
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I agree


Well I'm 58 so IG models don't do it for me. But, Melania....
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4303 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 9:02 am to
It’s all preference. The bottom line is, regardless of what formation you use, you have to execute. If don’t execute, you get the results we’re seeing.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 9:03 am to
It also depends on your players. Saban recruited tons of LBs who could stop the run.

Ed O has been recruiting for 3-4 in recent years, and this sudden change to 4-3 is a little baffling.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9398 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 9:40 am to
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It also depends on your players. Saban recruited tons of LBs who could stop the run.

Ed O has been recruiting for 3-4 in recent years, and this sudden change to 4-3 is a little baffling.

The personnel differences are overstated. Whether BJ Ojulari is a rush OLB or a hand-in-dirt DE, he’s playing the same role. We would still have problems at ILB.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
7942 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 9:45 am to
I just wish LSU would go back to putting 11 players on defense... seems like they are always missing a player somewhere
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36051 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 9:59 am to
You Saban lovers are so ate up with this Saban worship it stinks.
Saban runs a 3-4 base but he morphs into A four man dying often.

Clemson and Ohio State also run a 4-3 base. It’s not like the 4-3 is an exotic defense that few implement. The fact is if bet they are way more 4-3s than 3-4s currently. One reason is that a true NG is a liability on pass plays. They are mainly huge guys who plug the middle and are run stoppers.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15812 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 10:03 am to
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Coach O needs to correct his mistake. ASAP


Just shot him a text
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66578 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 10:18 am to
The biggest issue is that our DT suck and our secondary has no idea what’s going on.
Posted by AncientMarsupial3
Member since Feb 2020
216 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 10:26 am to
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Bama runs a 4-2-5 as well. When they began getting shredded by A&M and Ole Miss because their defense was slow and unprepared for uptempo offenses he made the switch to a nickel defense. Teams like Auburn and now Miss St. run the 3-3-5.


You’re literally just making stuff up lmfao. They’ve been in the nickel the whole season, still run a 3-4, which is more of a 3-3-5 in nickel.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89551 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 10:36 am to
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One reason is that a true NG is a liability on pass plays.


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They are mainly huge guys who plug the middle and are run stoppers.


Meh - they occupy 2 blockers, typically, and the good ones are athletic enough to at least threaten the passer if you block them with 1 - I think this part of the 4-3/3-4 discussion is a wash. There are just way more guys (from a quantity standpoint) who can be effective playing a 2-technique at 300 to 315 pounds, versus the giant NGs who are 340 to 360.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5019 posts
Posted on 11/3/20 at 10:36 am to
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5.


You’re literally just making stuff up lmfao. They’ve been in the nickel the whole season, still run a 3-4, which is more of a 3-3-5 in nickel.



They run a 3-4 but it’s more multiple than Aranda’s
They don’t have the huge NT and he doesn’t line up directly over the center
They run a tithe front a lot with their jack lb on the line
They also run dime and a 3 safety look a lot - which Aranda did often especially at the end of last year
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